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post #4246 of 19490

I think the problem is that I firmly believe that quality is not necessarily tied to price. The relationship can be close, but its not a permanent rule.

 

This a potentially contentious topic though, so we should probably leave it here....

post #4247 of 19490

Just posted my review of X5: http://www.head-fi.org/products/fiio-x5-high-res-portable-music-player/reviews/10441

 

Go easy, its from non-audiophile perspective ;)

post #4248 of 19490

I am still lost in all of these dap choices, thinking of picking up either the x5 or the hm802 or even the sony zx1 sheerly for the ui

post #4249 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Retrias View Post
 

I am still lost in all of these dap choices, thinking of picking up either the x5 or the hm802 or even the sony zx1 sheerly for the ui

 

If you can afford a ZX1, then you really should consider the Calyx-M, as it also has a fantastic UI.

post #4250 of 19490

a few question to existing X5 owner

1. how is the playlist? can it be edited on a PC?

2. I prefer to store my music in folder structure such as artist->album->CD1/CD2 and prefer to navigate in this way. Is it possible to play non stop from one folder to the next one?

3. does volume control on the DAP affects LO volume?

 

thanks :)

post #4251 of 19490
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Originally Posted by hoekeat View Post
 

a few question to existing X5 owner

1. how is the playlist? can it be edited on a PC?

2. I prefer to store my music in folder structure such as artist->album->CD1/CD2 and prefer to navigate in this way. Is it possible to play non stop from one folder to the next one?

3. does volume control on the DAP affects LO volume?

 

thanks :)

 

I can answer two of your questions

 

1. There is no playlist support in any way at the moment for the X5

2. It is posible to navigate it that way, but it won't play one folder after other.

post #4252 of 19490
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2. I prefer to store my music in folder structure such as artist->album->CD1/CD2 and prefer to navigate in this way. Is it possible to play non stop from one folder to the next one?

 

I don't have an X5, but what I do with those is manually edit the tags so there's no CD2 and so forth. Tracks from CD2 get their track numbers edited first. So for example, I have Album X with CD1 that goes to 17 tracks, and CD2 with ten tracks. I go to MediaMonkey, edit CD2's track numbers so they run from 18 to 27, then edit the album tag for all as "Album X," with no CD1 or CD2.

post #4253 of 19490
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But not micro-detailed :tongue:

 

 

ANYWAY.... is the X5 still on-target for it's intended release date, James / Joe ?

 

With a magnifying glass there sure is :tongue_smile:....

post #4254 of 19490

Jame can U tell me when will it come out ??? i want it now !!!!!!

post #4255 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

If you can afford a ZX1, then you really should consider the Calyx-M, as it also has a fantastic UI.


they have a bit of 200 dollar difference right compared with each other , would have to hear` what the calyx is like, i am not really keen on sabre dac based on my experience2

post #4256 of 19490

I wanted to ask James a quick question if I could...
Are you keeping an eye on, or worried about what Neil Young is doing with his proposed PONO service and Hi-Def audio player?
And what it might mean for Fiio?

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Originally Posted by flowerlandfilms View Post
 

I wanted to ask James a quick question if I could...
Are you keeping an eye on, or worried about what Neil Young is doing with his proposed PONO service and Hi-Def audio player?
And what it might mean for Fiio?

 

 

Biggest issue with PONO is that they are, in a manner of speaking, trying to DRM the content, so it'll be a dead duck in the water if that goes ahead, IMO.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/680853/sony-nwz-zx1-35th-walkman-anniversary-model/1335#post_10042627

 

 

I don't think Fiio have anything at all to worry about, from PONO :smile_phones: 

 

 

 

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Edited by Mython - 2/6/14 at 9:02am
post #4258 of 19490
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Biggest issue with PONO is that they are, in a manner of speaking, trying to DRM the content, so it'll be a dead duck in the water if that goes ahead, IMO.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/680853/sony-nwz-zx1-35th-walkman-anniversary-model/1335#post_10042627

 

 

I don't think Fiio have anything at all to worry about, from PONO :smile_phones: 

 

 

 

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Cool discussion! I hope they do not go the DRM route, but he does  say he has major labels on board, who may have made that a pre-requisite. Hopefully if they do make their catalogues available with DRM, it will be, "Work-around-able".

post #4259 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

Biggest issue with PONO is that they are, in a manner of speaking, trying to DRM the content, so it'll be a dead duck in the water if that goes ahead, IMO.

 

 

You can't have a better name for an audiophile dap. :)

 

Now pay attention to micro details of that intimate sounding. :wink:

post #4260 of 19490
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Originally Posted by flowerlandfilms View Post
 


Cool discussion! I hope they do not go the DRM route, but he does  say he has major labels on board, who may have made that a pre-requisite. Hopefully if they do make their catalogues available with DRM, it will be, "Work-around-able".

 

As you know, the Fiio players will play most major audio formats, so they cater for most of the music content that Fiio's customers own/buy.    Just because Neil Young may have major labels on board does not mean that those labels will necessarily limit themselves to PONO as a retail channel for their content. I am not aware of NY having signed any *exclusivity* contracts with any labels. Therefore, even though the record labels, understandably, would like to DRM all their content, history has taught them that that approach is fraught with problems and just p1$$e$ off their customers, sometimes even dissuading them from buying at all. So whatever labels NY may have signed-up, will probably also sell through non-DRM channels, too (i.e. not just through PONO).

 

If the big labels want to make a healthy income from their content, then the best approach they can take is to produce a quality product (i.e. not just upsampled from Redbook) and retail it at a fair price, without even needing to annoy their customers with DRM schemes.

 

 

When it was first announced, I was really keen to get onboard with PONO, but when I heard about the DRM, I just thought how archaic that approach is, and, frankly, dooming itself to medioce levels of success, or even failure.

 

 

Again, Fiio will have nothing to fear from PONO :smile:

 

Remember, there's an entire industry producing portable and fullsize audiophile hi-fi equipment - there's no way in hell the entire industry is going to allow itself to be held to ransom by the PONO format ecosystem, and that's yet another reason why many labels who have signed up to PONO will simultaneously sell through non-PONO / non-DRM  retail channels, too.

 

It's all good.  As much as I dislike PONO's attempts at DRM, I still appreciate Neil's contribution to raising public awareness of Hi-Res audio, as it will improve availability of Hi-Res hardware, across the industry.

 

 

Quite a few of us have observed, on several occasions, in various Head-fi threads, that Fiio have an exceedingly bright future ahead of them, because they are giving customers what they desire, and at great quality for the very reasonable prices they are asking. No need for James and the team to feel insecure in any way, whether it be because of Neil Young or even their competitors. And as far as their closest competitor (iBasso) is concerned, there's plenty of room in the marketplace for both of them to be successful.

 

:beerchug: 

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