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Maybe I'm a little bit surprised that the ZX1 is less "sparkly". I heard that it was a bit bright. The X5 is not especially bright.
Agreed about that part being a surprise. I have to admit I wasn't expecting that either. So the only thing that I could think of was that it was the ZX1's amp that makes the DAP shine rather than it's DAC. Whilst for the X5 it's its DAC is it's strength. No arguments from me about the detail.

Hope this clarifies what I wrote earlier...wasn't interning for it to mean the ZX1 amp was powerful or anything to that effect.
post #4112 of 19481

I have to agree when I plugged into the LO the DAP did become more detail oriented/brighter overall. I liked both signatures. Surprisingly they were quite different from eachother. Most importantly though is that I enjoy the HO as much as using the LO if not more :).

post #4113 of 19481
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

Interesting.  Fiio admitted (somewhere in this thread, or the other X5 thread) that they had altered the tuning, prior to releasing the X5, following feedback from Chinese dealers etc.  (i.e. you heard the re-tuned 'final' version)

 

 

If I recalled correctly, only the first few demo units for the Chinese retailer were the 'original' tuning. All retail and reviewer units are the 'final' tuning.

 

Sorry, is that different from what I said? :confused: 

post #4114 of 19481
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Sorry, is that different from what I said? :confused: 

 

Now I'm confused

post #4115 of 19481
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I have to agree when I plugged into the LO the DAP did become more detail oriented/brighter overall. I liked both signatures. Surprisingly they were quite different from eachother. Most importantly though is that I enjoy the HO as much as using the LO if not more smily_headphones1.gif.

Lee, you got X5 too? wow, so fast... curious about opinions ans esp comparisons to DX50, will X5 be a good upgrade over DX50?
post #4116 of 19481
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Lee, you got X5 too? wow, so fast... 

 

He was the first one on the X5 tour list.

post #4117 of 19481
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Originally Posted by Dixter View Post
 

with these posts of utilizing the X5 as a good DAC/DAP transport I noticed on the Fiio X5 website that they are showing the X5 mated with an E12 .....  as we know the E12 is a good amp and has some options like crosstalk and a very power full power output...   could this become the next X7... where the X5 and the power and options of the E12 get combined...

 

I think that would be a great combination...   :-)

I am very curious about this combination also.  From my experience, an iPod Video 5th gen (unmodded) with LOD to E12 is very good, but the CEntrance M8 beats it in treble detail.  An X5 stacked with LOD to an E12 could give the M8 stacked with a digital source a run for its money.  

post #4118 of 19481
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I am very curious about this combination also.  From my experience, an iPod Video 5th gen (unmodded) with LOD to E12 is very good, but the CEntrance M8 beats it in treble detail.  An X5 stacked with LOD to an E12 could give the M8 stacked with a digital source a run for its money.  

 



Curious - why would you bother stacking anything with the X5 (unless you wanted to drive something really difficult)? The whole idea is to avoid having a stack in the first place. To my ears (and other early testers), the H/O is as good as the L/O, it's got an output impedance of well under 1 ohm, and the X5 had no issues driving headphones like the HD600/650 and DT880 250 ohm.
post #4119 of 19481
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

I have to agree when I plugged into the LO the DAP did become more detail oriented/brighter overall. I liked both signatures. Surprisingly they were quite different from eachother. Most importantly though is that I enjoy the HO as much as using the LO if not more smily_headphones1.gif.

Strange, I did not find any differences whatsoever, I found both of them equal. Maybe it depends on the amp and phone combination. One thing is for sure, it's one of the cleanest HO line I've heard so far and the absence of hiss is remarkable for sensitive iems.
post #4120 of 19481
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I am very curious about this combination also.  From my experience, an iPod Video 5th gen (unmodded) with LOD to E12 is very good, but the CEntrance M8 beats it in treble detail.  An X5 stacked with LOD to an E12 could give the M8 stacked with a digital source a run for its money.  

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I am very curious about this combination also.  From my experience, an iPod Video 5th gen (unmodded) with LOD to E12 is very good, but the CEntrance M8 beats it in treble detail.  An X5 stacked with LOD to an E12 could give the M8 stacked with a digital source a run for its money.  

 



Curious - why would you bother stacking anything with the X5 (unless you wanted to drive something really difficult)? The whole idea is to avoid having a stack in the first place. To my ears (and other early testers), the H/O is as good as the L/O, it's got an output impedance of well under 1 ohm, and the X5 had no issues driving headphones like the HD600/650 and DT880 250 ohm.

Agree with Brooko, stacking is truly unnecessary, the only time I hooked up an amp is for gauging HO/LO sq differences and truly did not perceive anything substantial. I never hooked up an amp afterwards and proceeded to testing majority of functions and file resolution. This is one aspect of the player that just blew me away.
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I am very curious about this combination also.  From my experience, an iPod Video 5th gen (unmodded) with LOD to E12 is very good, but the CEntrance M8 beats it in treble detail.  An X5 stacked with LOD to an E12 could give the M8 stacked with a digital source a run for its money.  

 



Curious - why would you bother stacking anything with the X5 (unless you wanted to drive something really difficult)? The whole idea is to avoid having a stack in the first place. To my ears (and other early testers), the H/O is as good as the L/O, it's got an output impedance of well under 1 ohm, and the X5 had no issues driving headphones like the HD600/650 and DT880 250 ohm.

 

The LO is not just for more power, it's for cleaner sound if the LO is indeed a true & clean LO. If the HO sounds as good as the LO, then the LO may be too good to be a true LO.

 

Well Fiio (Joe and James) wouldn't want to answer the question on how the LO has been implemented anyways.

post #4122 of 19481
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post
 

I am very curious about this combination also.  From my experience, an iPod Video 5th gen (unmodded) with LOD to E12 is very good, but the CEntrance M8 beats it in treble detail.  An X5 stacked with LOD to an E12 could give the M8 stacked with a digital source a run for its money.  

 



Curious - why would you bother stacking anything with the X5 (unless you wanted to drive something really difficult)? The whole idea is to avoid having a stack in the first place. To my ears (and other early testers), the H/O is as good as the L/O, it's got an output impedance of well under 1 ohm, and the X5 had no issues driving headphones like the HD600/650 and DT880 250 ohm.

This is the issue.  I use EQ fairly often, which requires precut and results in an overall gain loss.  

 

I have the HD580 which definitely benefits from the E12 in the loop.  That and my Fostex T50RP with Alpha Pads both need power like the E12 and M8 to work well, and especially when I use EQ.  But, looking at the amp section of the X5, it may be enough in the end.  

post #4123 of 19481
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The LO is not just for more power, it's for cleaner sound if the LO is indeed a true & clean LO. If the HO sounds as good as the LO, then the LO may be too good to be a true LO.

 

Well Fiio (Joe and James) wouldn't want to answer the question on how the LO has been implemented anyways.



I take it from many of your comments / speculations you haven't heard the X5 - right?

Both the H/O and L/O are very clean, and very 'black' (no audible noise) - even at high volume. I'm not the only one saying this - seems to be a common comment from all the actual testers ......
post #4124 of 19481
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The LO is not just for more power, it's for cleaner sound if the LO is indeed a true & clean LO. If the HO sounds as good as the LO, then the LO may be too good to be a true LO.

 

Well Fiio (Joe and James) wouldn't want to answer the question on how the LO has been implemented anyways.



I take it from many of your comments / speculations you haven't heard the X5 - right?

Both the H/O and L/O are very clean, and very 'black' (no audible noise) - even at high volume. I'm not the only one saying this - seems to be a common comment from all the actual testers ......

 

Easy dude I am not here to bash X5 or anything, and you are correct I have NOT heard X5 or any high-end daps, shamefully.

 

I just brought my points to the discussions on LO, nothing more nothing less. I asked about how the LO is implemented on X5 without reading any answers.

 

I apologize if you feel like you were offended, but that's not my intention. My only intention is to understand and learn things which can help me to enjoy my music more.

post #4125 of 19481
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post

 

Easy dude I am not here to bash X5 or anything, and you are correct I have NOT heard X5 or any high-end daps, shamefully.

 

I just brought my points to the discussions on LO, nothing more nothing less. I asked about how the LO is implemented on X5 without reading any answers.

 

I apologize if you feel like you were offended, but that's not my intention. My only intention is to understand and learn things which can help me to enjoy my music more.


FTR - I wasn't 'stomping on you' - nor trying to make a statement. I was merely asking a question, and answering yours.
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