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I am happy enough to see dual microSD slots on X5. 

Here is my dream though: Wouldn't it be nice to have 500-1000GB of music on-the-go without need of wifi/3G? A 2.5" SATA slot would give a DAP that much of storage space, although battery and size could be a problem there.

Sure, I can live with just 120GB of LAME V0 mp3. But I have spent years to pick out and compress those favorite 120GB from my 3.5TB lossless flac collection. And my favorite genres oftentimes rotate among New Age, Rock, Jazz, Classical and folk (I have ~500GB of each genre). So a DAP of 1TB capacity would be my dream.

Sorry for my rant and back to our topic, I am happy enough with what X5 has to offer :-)
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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

I am happy enough to see dual microSD slots on X5. 

Here is my dream though: Wouldn't it be nice to have 500-1000GB of music on-the-go without need of wifi/3G? A 2.5" SATA slot would give a DAP that much of storage space, although battery and size could be a problem there.

Sure, I can live with just 120GB of LAME V0 mp3. But I have spent years to pick out and compress those favorite 120GB from my 3.5TB lossless flac collection. And my favorite genres oftentimes rotate among New Age, Rock, Jazz, Classical and folk (I have ~500GB of each genre). So a DAP of 1TB capacity would be my dream.

Sorry for my rant and back to our topic, I am happy enough with what X5 has to offer :-)

Apple was able to drop a 120GB HDD into a millimeter thick device over half a decade ago.

 

Your dream will one day come true redface.gif

 

But we are going backwards a bit as we are transitioning from HDD's to Flash. And right now. It seems even Flash memory isn't 'good enough' as now people want to build it right into the SoC and the main chips.

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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

I am happy enough to see dual microSD slots on X5. 

Here is my dream though: Wouldn't it be nice to have 500-1000GB of music on-the-go without need of wifi/3G? A 2.5" SATA slot would give a DAP that much of storage space, although battery and size could be a problem there.

Sure, I can live with just 120GB of LAME V0 mp3. But I have spent years to pick out and compress those favorite 120GB from my 3.5TB lossless flac collection. And my favorite genres oftentimes rotate among New Age, Rock, Jazz, Classical and folk (I have ~500GB of each genre). So a DAP of 1TB capacity would be my dream.

Sorry for my rant and back to our topic, I am happy enough with what X5 has to offer :-)

 

That's why Fiio should develop a CPU that's similar to the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs. They provide an efficient low powered output for enhanced battery life. That's just IMO.

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That's why Fiio should develop a CPU that's similar to the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs. They provide an efficient low powered output for enhanced battery life. That's just IMO.

FiiO develop a SoC using architecture and instruction set lisencing from ARM?

 

The amount of money that would cost would be a lot

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Apple was able to drop a 120GB HDD into a millimeter thick device over half a decade ago.

Your dream will one day come true redface.gif


But we are going backwards a bit as we are transitioning from HDD's to Flash. And right now. It seems even Flash memory isn't 'good enough' as now people want to build it right into the SoC and the main chips.

1.8" HDD's and SSD's have been around for a while, but at the moment i think 512GB are the largest around.

With the way technology evolves nowadays, people set enormously high expectations, and they don't seem pleased with what's around right now.

This will cause an even shorter time between invention and release to the public.

It wouldn't suprise me if we'll be having 512GB micro SD cards within the next 3 years.
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FiiO develop a SoC using architecture and instruction set lisencing from ARM?

 

The amount of money that would cost would be a lot

 

I know, but it'll definitely be useful for more storage and they wouldn't really have to hold back on the DACs that's available. They could develop the pinnacle of DAPs. Although that will remain a dream....for now.

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I know, but it'll definitely be useful for more storage and they wouldn't really have to hold back on the DACs that's available. They could develop the pinnacle of DAPs. Although that will remain a dream....for now.

I think developing a custom ARM based SoC is going to be way over FiiO's engineers heads. It would make sense if they sold millions of units every time.

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I think developing a custom ARM based SoC is going to be way over FiiO's engineers heads. It would make sense if they sold millions of units every time.

 

Yeah. That's why I'll just go for the X5. I need more storage for my FLAC/WAV/MP3 320 kbps.

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No offense to FiiO, but there's no way they have the capability to develop their own SoC for ARM.

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1.8" HDD's and SSD's have been around for a while, but at the moment i think 512GB are the largest around.

With the way technology evolves nowadays, people set enormously high expectations, and they don't seem pleased with what's around right now.

This will cause an even shorter time between invention and release to the public.

It wouldn't suprise me if we'll be having 512GB micro SD cards within the next 3 years.


Your going to need an SDXC card slot (and really that should be where manus are heading with portable devices) for that. Lexar alreasy has a 256GB out and plans for up to 2TB to market within the year.

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Your going to need an SDXC card slot (and really that should be where manus are heading with portable devices) for that. Lexar alreasy has a 256GB out and plans for up to 2TB to market within the year.

 

1) prices for high-capacity (128gb +) cards are kept artificially high by the silicon memory industry. Conspiracy, perhaps? A cartel approach, perhaps? Make up your own mind about that.

What is certain, though, based upon the history of memory cards up until this point, is that the 256gb card will not be economically viable for the common man any time this year, and possibly not even next year.

 

2) If you really believe Lexar will produce 2TB cards by the end of this year you are optimistic to the extreme. It has very little to do with manufacturing capability - it's to do with point 1).

As soon as 2TB is produced, it will bring down the price of 1TB, and so on, down the memory capacities hierarchy. With a greedy business approach, the relatively small number of players in the silicon market will always strive to keep making maximum money from memory capacities far behind what they are actualy capable of producing. Intel have been doing exactly the same for years, with their CPU speeds. Their R&D departments are several years ahead of what the company is actually offering to the marketplace at any given moment. Screw the end-user for maximum bucks for minimum capacity/speed/performance, until the market dries up, and then, only then, trickle the next upgrade onto the market, as slowly as possible, to maintain high demand for minimal supply, and thus stratospherically-high market price, for a period of time, only then gradually increasing supply, and so on.

 

 

It's a crock of ****, but that's the way of the industry, sadly.

 

By mid-2014, I foresee 128gb finally becoming reasonably commonplace and affordable, and of course there will be an slowly-improving gradient between now and then.

 

I don't foresee 2TB being a viable purchase for at least another 3 years.

 

Believe me, I would love to be proven wrong about this...

 

 

Anyway, I'm glad to see Fiio intend to offer 2 slots on the X5, since this offers many advantages, not least being able to stick the middle finger to the greedy silicon memory industry by allowing users to attain decent capacity by combining 2 cheaper cards rather than using 1 price-hiked one.


Edited by Mython - 6/2/13 at 12:25pm
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I think Hutnicks is talking about SDXC cards (normal size), not microSD cards.

The 128GB SDXC is already on a somewhat reasonable price, however 256GB is certainly not.

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I think Hutnicks is talking about SDXC cards (normal size), not microSD cards.

The 128GB SDXC is already on a somewhat reasonable price, however 256GB is certainly not.

 

Good point.

 

Still, I stand by the overall principle of what I said.

 

I view the silicon memory (and CPU) undustry with serious misgivings. They're so self-serving. Infinitely more so than they need to be in order to make a legitimate profit.

 

Anyway, without getting into a big discussion about that, suffice to say that the more DAP manufacturers provide dual memory card slots, the better.

 

I rarely use my cell phone these days, but back when I used to use it heavily, I was a keen user of multiple SIM cards, since this was a way of getting far better value for money. Not quite the same as memory cards, granted, but the net result, in terms of value-for-money for the serious user, was surprisingly analagous. Very few cell phones (other than those in Japan and China) ever offered dual-simcard slots, so I resorted to 3rd-party 'Ghost-SIM' adapters on my Nokia 5110 / 6310i etc., and it saved me a small fortune.

 

Kudos to James / Fiio for offering dual memory card slots on the X5. Now if only he'd offer a swappable battery, too... wink_face.gif


Edited by Mython - 6/2/13 at 2:05pm
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All true but greedy coorperations are the least of our future problems...what about a one world government who is hell bent on population reduction? Check ou a speach/plan from 1800's Mason leader Albert Pike about the 3 World Wars. It will blow your mind.
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@gr4474, Be paranoid all you like, but I think you're way off topic.

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