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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

 

Yes, but have you seen how many people keep asking FiiO to share their code with RB to hasten the porting?

 

True, but those people need to learn to be patient.

 

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Originally Posted by razorblader View Post
 


It basically reads loudness metadata from the ID3 tags to 'normalize' whatever song you're playing (mostly useful for shuffle play) to a standard loudness value so that the loudness level you set on your player is consistent across various songs.

Simply speaking you don't have to adjust the volume constantly between different songs.

 

Right ok.

 

Guess it isn't that useful for someone like me though, I mainly listen to mixes.

post #3467 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post
 

 

True, but those people need to learn to be patient.

 

 

Right ok.

 

Guess it isn't that useful for someone like me though, I mainly listen to mixes.


i grew up listening to records, mainly Tubular Bells.

i'm used to differences in volume, i suppose that's the reason why i don't see the importance of such a feature.

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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post
 


i grew up listening to records, mainly Tubular Bells.

i'm used to differences in volume, i suppose that's the reason why i don't see the importance of such a feature.

I think you may be missing the point of the feature - forgive if I'm wrong. It works like this, suppose you are listening to a recent recording which has been compressed and made as "hot" as possible and then you listen to, say, a 1970s recording which isn't compressed and so has been recorded with reasonable degree of headroom. The recent recording will sound much louder than the older one. RG tags the recordings with its "loudness" level which enables the player to adjust the volume so that the tracks are overall at the same loudness.

The important thing to note, is that the volume is only adjusted *between* tracks, not during them. It just saves you having to constantly adjust your volume depending on the source of the track - it doesn't do any processing of the track - just a once-off analysis of how loud it will sound which the player reads so it can set the correct volume before the track starts playing.

post #3469 of 19490

...a good example would be listening to Paul Simon's Graceland album, and then listening to Flying Lotus' Los Angeles album. Graceland sounds muted compared to Los Angeles...but that's because Flying Lotus has a tendency to max everything out. Graceland was recorded the old fashioned way.

 

Personally, I only listen to albums and never shuffle, so replaygain has never been a thing for me.

post #3470 of 19490
If you're a Mac user then use XLD to rip/transcode. Whether album art shows on a non-iDevice depends upon whether it was embedded into the file or whether you used iTunes to add cover art. I'd have to think he microSD cards would mount just fine when you plug in the DAP. I've had zero issues with my AK100 at least
post #3471 of 19490
I like to chime in on RG. Personally, I think it is very useful when you are listening to music and working. Basically, when your music is being used in the background and technically not being "listened" to. On the rare occasion that I shuffle all my tunes, it's annoying to have to keep turning the volume up and down on a device. Especially when a song comes blaring in, and you lose your concentration on whatever it is your doing.
Edited by cmull - 1/22/14 at 6:43am
post #3472 of 19490
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Originally Posted by tjw321 View Post
 

I think you may be missing the point of the feature - forgive if I'm wrong. It works like this, suppose you are listening to a recent recording which has been compressed and made as "hot" as possible and then you listen to, say, a 1970s recording which isn't compressed and so has been recorded with reasonable degree of headroom. The recent recording will sound much louder than the older one. RG tags the recordings with its "loudness" level which enables the player to adjust the volume so that the tracks are overall at the same loudness.

The important thing to note, is that the volume is only adjusted *between* tracks, not during them. It just saves you having to constantly adjust your volume depending on the source of the track - it doesn't do any processing of the track - just a once-off analysis of how loud it will sound which the player reads so it can set the correct volume before the track starts playing.


Well explained, that's it.

post #3473 of 19490

To each his/her own I guess. The beauty of this market is that each manufacturer has their own special selling points, giving us (somewhat) a choice for our own needs.

post #3474 of 19490
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Originally Posted by tjw321 View Post
 

I think you may be missing the point of the feature - forgive if I'm wrong. It works like this, suppose you are listening to a recent recording which has been compressed and made as "hot" as possible and then you listen to, say, a 1970s recording which isn't compressed and so has been recorded with reasonable degree of headroom. The recent recording will sound much louder than the older one. RG tags the recordings with its "loudness" level which enables the player to adjust the volume so that the tracks are overall at the same loudness.

The important thing to note, is that the volume is only adjusted *between* tracks, not during them. It just saves you having to constantly adjust your volume depending on the source of the track - it doesn't do any processing of the track - just a once-off analysis of how loud it will sound which the player reads so it can set the correct volume before the track starts playing.


oh now i get it.

 

i thought it would "equalise" allthrough a track.

post #3475 of 19490

I would love to see Replay Gain implemented, too. Without it the shuffle function is basically useless to me, because going from Classical straight to Metal... :basshead:  Ouch.

 

Adjusting the volume of the song at the start after reading the metadata couldn't be too hard to implement, I imagine. (Unless volume is strictly hardware-controlled, but it doesn't look like it is...)

post #3476 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

I made a new X5 demo video! biggrin.gif
http://youtu.be/bI2zu495TkI
 
Very useful video. On the Folder selection for playback, the song names had numbers in front of them for order. Is this from the embedded Track Number meta-data, or does it have to be included in song titles?
post #3477 of 19490

Any estimate on battery life? 

post #3478 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Stuff Jones View Post
 

Any estimate on battery life? 

 

Joe suggested around 9-10 hours.  It's one of the things I will try and test over the weekend.

post #3479 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Stuff Jones View Post
 

Any estimate on battery life? 

 

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Joe suggested around 9-10 hours.  It's one of the things I will try and test over the weekend.

 

I already played continuosly for 7 hours today... Battery indicator is still almost full (not sure how responsive it is) but I'll chime in also. Right now playing mostly FLACs, volume at 70-ish, display brightness in the middle, Shuffle mode through "All Songs".

post #3480 of 19490

I've moved @atwaterkent's problematic-X3 trade up to X5 post and subsequent replies to his issue to http://www.head-fi.org/t/675035/fiio-x3-nightmare. He's raised his issue there and in other X3 threads before, and Joe has offered to assist at least twice too.

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