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Can't handle with Mython tonight guys, he is way above than where we stay :beerchug:

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Dang!!! The gold DOES look SMEXY!!!

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To anyone new to this thread, the X5 will be produced in BLACK.

 

The X5 will ONLY BE AVAILABLE IN BLACK!

 

the other colours in this post are just fake Photoshopped renders, for fun.

 

 

 

<==THIS IS THE REAL X5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The following ones are fake colours that will not be produced.

 


Edited by Mython - 12/14/13 at 8:06pm
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well well well after months awaiting

congrats James..

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Congrats James and the rest of the FiiO team! I'm anxiously awaiting the North American arrival of the X5. As happy as I am with the X3, the X5 really seems like a step up.

 

Take care and enjoy the new launch!

 

Dale

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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

Looks quite nice in Silver, actually, but silver plastic (buttons etc.) never stays silver for long, so I'd rather buy the X5 entirely in black. The real choice of silver for the buttons isn't a dealbreaker for me, though, obviously.

 

 

 

It's usability and SQ that I care about, above all else.

 

I'm sure James has us all wondering what he and the team have managed to accomplish at this price point.

 

In order to be worth their time creating and marketing, it surely must sound better than the X3 and the DX50 (James isn't crazy to charge more for a product that doesn't sound any better), so the question is, with the law of diminishing returns always active. how close to DX100/HM901 SQ have they managed to achieve?

 

I'm not expecting miracles, but I'm optimistic that it will not roll-off the treble like some cheaper DAPs do, and should sound rather nice, overall.

 

 

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Sounds interesting, I like the click wheel it's an Apple thing :bigsmile_face: but looking at the internals, it isn't much different than the DX50 except for some additional functionality provided like DSP and couple of SD card readers but DAC wise, it's still the WM8740 flavor so that will be sounding somewhat similar to it, I seriously doubt it will beat the AK120 with the double DACS. I am certainly watching this one real close. :popcorn:

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 I like the click wheel it's an Apple thing :bigsmile_face:

 

I have a love-hate relationship with Apple products, but one thing I will concede (and always have done) is that (IMO) the iPod Classic scroll wheel is one of the most genius ergonomical design ideas ever conceived on a consumer electronics device.

 

However, I do have a little trepidation with scroll wheels from other companies (I'm particularly thinking of the flimsy wheel on the HM-901). I really hope the X5 scroll wheel is robust.

 

 

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looking at the internals, it isn't much different than the DX50 except for some additional functionality provided like DSP and couple of SD card readers but DAC wise, it's still the WM8740 flavor so that will be sounding somewhat similar to it, I seriously doubt it will beat the AK120 with the double DACS. I am certainly watching this one real close. :popcorn:

 

 

Not sure what you mean about this - the X5 uses a PCM1792 DAC chip.

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I have a love-hate relationship with Apple products, but one thing I will concede (and always have done) is that (IMO) the iPod Classic scroll wheel is one of the most genius ergonomical design ideas ever conceived on a consumer electronics device.

 

However, I do have a little trepidation with scroll wheels from other companies (I'm particularly thinking of the flimsy wheel on the HM-901). I really hope the X5 scroll wheel is robust.

 

 

 

 

Not sure what you mean about this - the X5 uses a PCM1792 DAC chip.

I must have seen some wrong page on the FIIO website, they were showing the amp and dac sections and I am sure I saw the WM8740 unless it was the X3. Mind you it was in Chinese so I could have missed the boat entirely, can you point me to the web site again where the DAC is being discussed?

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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post
 

I must have seen some wrong page on the FIIO website, they were showing the amp and dac sections and I am sure I saw the WM8740 unless it was the X3. Mind you it was in Chinese so I could have missed the boat entirely, can you point me to the web site again where the DAC is being discussed?


In this thread James stated the DAC many times. Also: http://www.fiio.com.cn/cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000055517771&MenuID=105026016

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Originally Posted by tinara View Post
 

@AmberOzL, the OTG function is for using the X5 as a DAC/Amp with your computer as source. You have a digital coax output if you want to plug the X5 to a DAC.


That is called an USB-DAC. eg: E07K,E17.

 

USB-OTG is USB-On The Go, which means you can use that X5's USB port to connect external storages just like you connect to the USB port of the laptop/PC OR You can connect external AMP(portable HP amp,/stereo amps/AV receiver that has front USB) bypassing built-in amp section of X5 but utilizing just the DAC portion.

 

Coax-out  on the other hand outputs hi-res full digital o/p which USB can't.(select desktop setup amp,AV integrated amp and AV receivers have the decoders which does all the job to be heard on the stereo speakers/HT surrounds)

 

So,the text in red above is a mystery we are eagerly waiting like everybody else, for an answer from James or Joe.

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In this thread James stated the DAC many times. Also: http://www.fiio.com.cn/cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000055517771&MenuID=105026016

That was the one, if you go down where the amp and dac section is displayed I can see the WM8740ESEDS so I presume that must be the X3 section correct?

Then the PCM 1792 is displayed right underneath it, that would be the X5 correct? Wish James would have the English version then less likely to make mistakes understanding it.

It's not a one of the top dac though, I would expect the Sabre to be used or the WM8741 but the PCM1792 is a TI product, not one of the best audiophile DACs. What do you think?

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*They talk about USB 2.0 only, does it mean USB 3.0 will not recognize X5?

 

**A question, when it is bought in Eu from official dealers, does it come with Eu type wall charger?

* The speed will definitely be slower if OTG'd to external storage, if not USB3.

**I believe it just comes with the stock microUSB cable. (not sure X3 came with a stock wall charger). And with X5's 3300mAh battery pack a 2-5A charger is convincing but FiiO can't afford to include as stock due to additional cost factor.

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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post
 

That was the one, if you go down where the amp and dac section is displayed I can see the WM8740ESEDS so I presume that must be the X3 section correct?

Then the PCM 1792 is displayed right underneath it, that would be the X5 correct? Wish James would have the English version then less likely to make mistakes understanding it.

It's not a one of the top dac though, I would expect the Sabre to be used or the WM8741 but the PCM1792 is a TI product, not one of the best audiophile DACs. What do you think?

Nah, that's just to show you how much more  complicated is the X5's design next to the X3's. And that PCM1792A is nice and is the the best TI DAC chip on the market. I'm sure they've done their homework and its implementation will be top-notch.

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Originally Posted by musicheaven View Post
 

That was the one, if you go down where the amp and dac section is displayed I can see the WM8740ESEDS so I presume that must be the X3 section correct?

Then the PCM 1792 is displayed right underneath it, that would be the X5 correct? Wish James would have the English version then less likely to make mistakes understanding it.

It's not a one of the top dac though, I would expect the Sabre to be used or the WM8741 but the PCM1792 is a TI product, not one of the best audiophile DACs. What do you think?

 

 

There is already an X7 being planned, which might (or might not) use the ES9018-2M Sabre mobile DAC chip.

 

All I know is that James listens very carefully to what customers are asking for, and he knows that although the implementation of a DAC chip is just as important as the choice of DAC chip, there is, nonetheless, a demand from DAP buyers for the Sabre chips, not least due to the fact that the DX100 and HM-901 sound so good (but those 2 DAPs also have unusually potent and power-hungry amp sections, which is a significant factor that should not be overlooked).

 

Simply because the X7 will (we are led to believe) be a flagship, and will thus be competing somewhat with the DX100 and HM-901, I rather suspect that the ES9018-2M may be used, but only time will tell. James did mention much earlier in this thread that he has a very good working relationship with the company that produces the Sabre chips.

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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

There is already an X7 being planned, which might (or might not) use the ES9018-2M Sabre mobile DAC chip.

 

All I know is that James listens very carefully to what customers are asking for, and he knows that although the implementation of a DAC chip is just as important as the choice of DAC chip, there is, nonetheless, a demand from DAP buyers for the Sabre chips, not least due to the fact that the DX100 and HM-901 sound so good (but those 2 DAPs also have unusually potent and power-hungry amp sections, which is a significant factor that should not be overlooked).

 

Simply because the X7 will (we are led to believe) be a flagship, and will thus be competing somewhat with the DX100 and HM-901, I rather suspect that the ES9018-2M may be used, but only time will tell. James did mention much earlier in this thread that he has a very good working relationship with the company that produces the Sabre chips.

Thanks for the info, the ES9018-2M is the DAC I expected James to use in the X5 but it must have been a wish list more then the real thing. I will then check the X7 very closely I would not mind owning a Sabre designed DAP I heard so much praised about the DAC, I know that the implementation is everything but the Saber is a better chip for audiophile quality daps. Like you said time will tell.

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