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Originally Posted by turokrocks View Post

 

 



Very interesting.



Wish you all the best.



Keep the good products coming.



 



James , will there be some future project with the "ES9018MK2"? (the portable version of ES9018)





 



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yes, maybe in our X7 after 1 year





 



When can we buy the X7 with ES9018K2M?



If the X5 will be available in March, but the X7 will be released in June, I would skip the X5 and wait for the X7.

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@AmberOzL, the OTG function is for using the X5 as a DAC/Amp with your computer as source. You have a digital coax output if you want to plug the X5 to a DAC.

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

The DAC chip supports DSD. It's unlikely that it's transcoded to PCM and much more likely that DSD is decoded natively by the hardware. 

 

 

Sadly I have to tell you that any DSD file played on the X5 will have to be transcoded to PCM first, in order to make it possible to send the digital data to the DAC. It does not matter if the DAC is capable of DSD, the problem is the ARM CPU, that only has the I2S port. I2S is PCM.

 

At least that is how I understand this. I would be happy, if someone could prove me wrong.

 

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Originally Posted by JZ4760_Board_Design_Guide.pdf View Post
 
The AIC(AC'97 and I2S Controller) included in this processor. The AIC supports the Audio Codec '97
Component Specification 2.3 for AC-link format and
I2S or IIS (for inter-IC sound), a protocol defined
by Philips Semiconductor. Both normal I2S and the MSB-justified I2S formats are supported by AIC.

 

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Originally Posted by tinara View Post
 

@AmberOzL, the OTG function is for using the X5 as a DAC/Amp with your computer as source. You have a digital coax output if you want to plug the X5 to a DAC.


OTG function refers only to being a usb dac/amp then? Well it was known anyway, I was excited when I see OTG icon on the website, I thought they implemented USB audio out or USB storage. Too bad but not a deal breaker either.

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Just checked the FiiO's X5 page in Chinese (which I don't understand anything), they show USB DAC/AMP feature with a USB cable icon with DAC written on it, so my guess is, OTG still stands for either USB audio out or USB storage option.

 

Please FiiO guys, explain this little icon for us. To me and I am sure to many other friends in here, one of these options would be useful. I myself really would love to see USB audio out option.

 

Joe and if recovered/back already James, we are waiting for your responses.

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Originally Posted by RAFA View Post
 

 

 

Sadly I have to tell you that any DSD file played on the X5 will have to be transcoded to PCM first, in order to make it possible to send the digital data to the DAC. It does not matter if the DAC is capable of DSD, the problem is the ARM CPU, that only has the I2S port. I2S is PCM.

 

At least that is how I understand this. I would be happy, if someone could prove me wrong.

 

I'm sure that may be a disappointment for some but I'm a PCM kind of guy so I'm good either way.:smile:

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Also, while reading the page in Google Translate, I noticed it says with firmware updates the capacity can reach 256, 512 gb etc. So it probably means, when the next generation micro sd cards available, there is a big chance we might be able to use them or it means with SD to micro sd card connectors, we can still have huge storage options however it will sure add some bulkiness to the device.

 

About UI part, they talk about blind operation so probably we will have very easy to use UI with X5. I always prefer physical controls over touchscreen so it is a welcome feature for me.

 

They talk about USB 2.0 only, does it mean USB 3.0 will not recognize X5?

 

The silicone case is translucent black which is better than the white.

 

A question, when it is bought in Eu from official dealers, does it come with Eu type wall charger?

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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

Just checked the FiiO's X5 page in Chinese (which I don't understand anything), they show USB DAC/AMP feature with a USB cable icon with DAC written on it, so my guess is, OTG still stands for either USB audio out or USB storage option.

where? i cant seems to find it. The only OTG reference is the icon only and nothing else. The USB cable with DAC word on it should means it works as a USB DAC. I can read chinese, maybe i can help to translate any part that u r interested in

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Originally Posted by hoekeat View Post
 

where? i cant seems to find it. The only OTG reference is the icon only and nothing else. The USB cable with DAC word on it should means it works as a USB DAC. I can read chinese, maybe i can help to translate any part that u r interested in


Here mate, just before the OTG written, there is a usb cable icon with a DAC written on it. OTG on the other hand can be audio out or storage but I don't know which one honestly. Maybe in X5's page, they explain something about it?

 

James already said that it will be dap + usb dac/amp but he stated nothing about OTG, I even remember he is saying X5 won't have usb audio out but not sure anymore.

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

I'm sure that may be a disappointment for some but I'm a PCM kind of guy so I'm good either way.:smile:

 

I am happy with good old 16/44, as long it is well implemented. :)

 

Generally, I believe the X5 will be a good DAP.

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Originally Posted by RAFA View Post
 

 

I am happy with good old 16/44, as long it is well implemented. :)

 

Generally, I believe the X5 will be a good DAP.


There are many experts that show that there is no SQ benefit to 24/196 over 16/44 that can be perceived by human hearing.  When A/B studies are properly administered, people are not able to tell the difference.  That being said,  the HD music that is produced is generally remastered and remastered well.  This can make the music sound better in HD recordings, but not because of the 24/196 data.

 

Let the hating begin...

 

See one example here that is well written:  http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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Originally Posted by Jess70 View Post
 


There are many experts that show that there is no SQ benefit to 24/196 over 16/44 that can be perceived by human hearing.  When A/B studies are properly administered, people are not able to tell the difference.  That being said,  the HD music that is produced is generally remastered and remastered well.  This can make the music sound better in HD recordings, but not because of the 24/196 data.

 

Let the hating begin...

 

See one example here that is well written:  http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html


I actually agree with you, most of the time I can hardly hear the difference, I have to be in a silent place and focus on the music to hear differences. Usually better separation, more detail what I hear as extra. However, on to go like in the buses, trains etc, I don't really care if I am listening to 24/192 or 16/44. At home, I prefer studio mastering quality always, that gives me shivers all the time.

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Originally Posted by Jess70 View Post
 


There are many experts that show that there is no SQ benefit to 24/196 over 16/44 that can be perceived by human hearing.  When A/B studies are properly administered, people are not able to tell the difference.  That being said,  the HD music that is produced is generally remastered and remastered well.  This can make the music sound better in HD recordings, but not because of the 24/196 data.

 

Let the hating begin...

 

See one example here that is well written:  http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

 

I have read a lot of different opinions and articles about this topic (no scientific papers, just blog entries). I agree with you, but lets not start fire here.

 

DSD on the other hand, I believe is not only about high resolution. There is this topic of noise shaping. DSD in simple terms, moves noise, that emerges from the conversion from digital to analog, in an inaudible area. This results in better clarity.

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Will there be a trade-in program for the X3 ? 

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I would just like to have a confirmation that this will support m3u playlists. :confused: If it does I'm 100% sold. That's the only requirement I have left,...everything about it is stellar!!! :L3000:

 

If the question was asked & answered before please excuse my missing it. 

 

Thanks all,...and especially thanks to JamesFiiO!!! :beerchug: 


Edited by tds101 - 12/14/13 at 12:24pm
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