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Originally Posted by rajibranjan View Post
 

A quick question: Is the X5 capable of driving the Sennheiser HD650 without any amp?

 

Yes, the X5 drives the HD 650 with ease in terms of loudness, but to my ears it sounds better – warmer, better textured – with a good dedicated headphone amp.

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just got the ath im-02 iem

i wonder if X5 supports inline remote for playback forward/backwards selections

 

i am looking at this cable replacement for the im-02

http://www.lunashops.com/goods.php?id=4971

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Originally Posted by lurk View Post
 

just got the ath im-02 iem

i wonder if X5 supports inline remote for playback forward/backwards selections

 

i am looking at this cable replacement for the im-02

http://www.lunashops.com/goods.php?id=4971

No, it does not. 

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Happy 4th of July, fellow users of the X5 Classic!

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Someone mentioned that the X5 is just as powerful as the E12 amp, so no point in buying.

 

So, if the E12 is not an upgrade over the X5 amp, what is? Is there a great amp for the X5 under $200?

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Originally Posted by danmlr View Post

Someone mentioned that the X5 is just as powerful as the E12 amp, so no point in buying.

So, if the E12 is not an upgrade over the X5 amp, what is? Is there a great amp for the X5 under $200?

You're confusing the E12 with the E12A. The E12 is a MASSIVE amperage upgrade over the X5.
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Keep in mind that just because the E12A may have the same power output as the amp built into the X5 doesn't mean that the E12A isn't the better sounding amp. Depending on what IEM's or headphones you're using, you very well may prefer the sound of the X5 & E12A combo, then again maybe you won't. I prefer the X5 with the E12A (the very powerful E12 has too much hiss for my IEM's) so try the pair out if you can with the ability to return the amp if it doesn't suit your personal needs/tastes. 

 

I haven't tried the E12A with the X5 II yet, I want to make certain that I'm used to the X5 II's sound by itself before trying it with the amp. If your main concern is power, both the X5 and X5 II seem to have plenty of juice on tap for "most headphones" but the E12 could come in handy for driving some planar magnetics. 

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Originally Posted by danmlr View Post

Really ridiculous how good this X5 is sounding. smily_headphones1.gif

BTW, someone mentioned the X5's amp section is just as good as the E12's, so no need to pair them. Yet, aren't quite a few running this exact setup?
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Originally Posted by x RELIC x View Post

X5 amp section is good and tonally sounds similar to the e12. As far as driving power the e12 slaughters the X5 if you have more difficult to power headphones. Like 4x more powerful.

You may be confusing the e12 for the e12A, which is the IEM version and has about the same power output rating as the X5, but better amp components and people have reported that they prefer the sound out of the e12A.
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Originally Posted by danmlr View Post

Koss KSC75, not difficult to drive, I assume. 

It seems like both the 12 and 12A are better amps than X5's though. 

I'll do a bit more research. At worst, I could return the amp with a restocking fee. Haven't bought it yet, but still interested.
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Originally Posted by x RELIC x View Post

At 60 Ohm resistance and 101db sensitivity they aren't really difficult to drive. You don't need the e12 to power them at all.

I'd just pair them with the X5 and save up for more resolving headphones as your next purchase.
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Originally Posted by danmlr View Post

Someone mentioned that the X5 is just as powerful as the E12 amp, so no point in buying.

So, if the E12 is not an upgrade over the X5 amp, what is? Is there a great amp for the X5 under $200?

I quoted these because you seem to keep getting the two versions of e12 and e12A confused.

Once again, from an amplifier standpoint the amp built in to the X5 is really good and I'm not sure you'll find one for under $200 besides the e12A that you may prefer more. Not that it's much more powerful, but again, it has better amp components and you can use the bass boost if you want to.
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All of the headphones I'm using are very easy to drive: portapro, sportapro, KSC75, all "modded" with parts express headband. 

 

I'm super happy with the performance of these 3 headphones.

 

I am considering sennheiser 598 + Fiio E12 however, to see if they offer any additional performance. That's an extra $260, a bit risky for me as I am pretty much thrilled with my current Koss collection. 

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Well in that case, yes, the regular e12 is 4x more powerful than the built in amp and will drive the HD598 with ease. Not really going to find better at that price point.

Edit: But then again the X5 will drive the HD598 with ease given they are 50 Ohm and 112 db sensitivity. You really don't need an external amp for those headphones either if you're using the X5.
Edited by x RELIC x - Today at 12:18 am
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Originally Posted by x RELIC x View Post





I quoted these because you seem to keep getting the two versions of e12 and e12A confused.

Once again, from an amplifier standpoint the amp built in to the X5 is really good and I'm not sure you'll find one for under $200 besides the e12A that you may prefer more. Not that it's much more powerful, but again, it has better amp components and you can use the bass boost if you want to.

Cayin C5 is a pretty darn nice sub-$200 amp that has a complementary sound signature vs. X5 that might make it worth consideration especially for full-size cans.
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I keep forgetting about the C5! wink_face.gif
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Yup, after getting a "re-listen" with the Cayin C5DAC, I'm having just a wee bit of seller's remorse frown.gif
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