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The picture at ibood shows the old version which doesn't have UHS-I, but the text describes the new version which does. My guess is that they've re-used the old graphic not noticing the difference.

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Think you are correct but there is a bit of confusion.
No difference between both from class or speed the only thing is mobile ultra is with sandisk memory zone and the other not, you can download the app from playstore that's it i think.

And the music that you'd put on it won't ever go to 10MB/s anyway.
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How would that hardware mod be? I'm very interested in that possibility, because isn't double-amping a bad option no matter what?

I'm amazed at the lack of balance control in the portable amps such as the E12, even when the very Fiio E17 has one. Why, Fiio, why do you make an almost perfect whatever, but never do that extra something that would please a lot of people?

What you'd have to do is put a potmeter on the audio circuit, if you can't mych into DIY, you could also get an inline balance controller.
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I appreciate what you guys are saying. Sorry if I stirred the pot. Not trying to and it seems my main point was lost in the age old compression debate. I know I'm right on the technicalities, but whether the differences are actually heard with lossy I feel is a personal matter.

 

I dunno if it counts, but earlier in my head fi journey I converted a selection of songs from lossless cd rips to lossy (using iTunes to 320kbps AAC) and I, personally, could hear a difference. The lossy sounded less realistic, slightly veiled. It was blind in the sense that I was just skipping through the songs on the same player and listening for the differences, without looking, over and over again until I didn't know which version I was skipping to. Most of the time I could pick it out. Not sure if this qualifies as a test for the general community but it seemed clear to me. I've stuck with 16/44.1 lossless since then. I respect your work Brooko on the double blind test and I may get around to it. Thanks for the link. IMO a good master really is the biggest factor in SQ, as I've said many times before. Believe me, I have some terribly mastered lossless files that sound horrendous.

 

Hey - no problem.  All I would do is encourage you when you have time to follow the links I left and retest yourself using Foobar's ABX + replaygain.  Chances are that when you last tested, you weren't completely blind (you couldn't have been to do the checks), didn't do enough tests to be statistically relelvant, and more importantly volume was not matched.  Transcoding often results in volume differences - the biggest bane when people compare different headphones, amps, sources.  It is an eye opening (and strangely liberating) experience - performing a proper test.  Again - it's your call on whether to do it. And I do appreciate the positive feedback regarding the how-to.

 

 

Back on topic

 

I'm hoping my X5 will be here within a few weeks.  I have really missed it since the review period.  Saying that though I have been very much enjoying my V3 Anniversary of late - and have decided I'm probably going to keep both units.

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Thanks for the recommendation. I've seen that before, but I don't know what to do with the 17' cable that comes attached. That same volume controller, without the absurd cable length would be great.

If its really important to you and you would use it I'm sure you can cut the cable to what ever length you want or have it modded... should be very easy to do...

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Can someone please recommend which FW versions for the best sq?

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Question for the FiiO guys here..

 

Are there plans for a 1/8 to RCA high quality Coax cable for use with the X5?  It wound be great not to use the (cheap) adaptor.

 

To everyone else..

 

Has anyone tried to take a regular Coax cable and add a 1/8 mono plug.  I'm thinking of getting an AudioQuest Cinnamon cable, cutting of the end and soldering a 1/8 plug on it.  Would that work?

 

OK.. I'm a little anal and would like a decent cable to hook up the X5 to my DAC.

 

I wouldn't spend too much money on that cable. Since the signal it transmits is digital it either go through or not.

 

I would spend the "proper" amount of money to have a good quality cable but I wouldn't go overboard and dive into the extreme performance cables.

 

In the digital realm, if you hear a difference between two cables then one of them is bad and you should return it.

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Seems like lately I've had more freezes, not sure why. I know for a fact there is one audio file that will kill my X5 - what do I look for, the audio file plays fine in everything else.

 

Most days it runs smooth and fine.. I get a lot of freezes when I am skipping songs faster than the X5 can keep up with (which isn't fast really)

 

Also really really REALLY wish I could play ALL SONGS by a single Artist... I like to take my favorite artists and just put their entire collection on shuffle sometimes... I really miss that!

Playlists would be lovely as well :)

 

Still, though.. I absolutely love my X5 + E12 combo with the HS6 bundle kit... it's far from perfect but I love it and know a lot of these bugs will get worked out in time.

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Not looking for a cable debate here - just looking for a direct connect Coax cable 1/8 to RCA - either to purchase one or modify one.

Proper amount of money is relative. For me, it's less than $100. :)

 

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I wouldn't spend too much money on that cable. Since the signal it transmits is digital it either go through or not.

 

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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

 

Not looking for a cable debate here - just looking for a direct connect Coax cable 1/8 to RCA - either to purchase one or modify one.

Proper amount of money is relative. For me, it's less than $100. :)

 

Not looking for a cable debate either. I was just saying that there's no use to spend a lot of money on cables that transmit digital data.

 

In my case I would just make it. I have some wire lying around with proper quality connectors. :D

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Yeah, I'll probably take one of my spare coax cables, add a 1/8 plug and see how it goes:wink:

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Originally Posted by Nicolas2305 View Post

In my case I would just make it. I have some wire lying around with proper quality connectors. :D

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Speaking of cables..

 

Can anyone point me to a decent minijack to 2 cinch cable..?? (Line out)

 

Thanks

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And the music that you'd put on it won't ever go to 10MB/s anyway.
What you'd have to do is put a potmeter on the audio circuit, if you can't mych into DIY, you could also get an inline balance controller.

Would you mind posting a link to such thing? Is it something internal or external to the E12? I've never seen an inline balance controller. You know any for sale?
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Dixter View Post
 

If its really important to you and you would use it I'm sure you can cut the cable to what ever length you want or have it modded... should be very easy to do...

Yes, that's a possibility, but I'm not much onto DIY. I would like the E12 to have balance control, or the X5 line out to not disable such functionality. Most people develop a slight hearing difference in their ears with the years. I think any well-designed music listening device should have a balance control. The E12 does not have one, unfortunately, and I believe it should be a minor and cheap modification for Fiio to make.

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Originally Posted by Muenchener View Post

Would you mind posting a link to such thing? Is it something internal or external to the E12? I've never seen an inline balance controller. You know any for sale?

Thanks!

I'm talking about modifying the circuit, but i really don't think you should be messing with it unless you know what you're doing, as everything might break (and your warranty is gone)

inline balance controller: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/110890076320
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I'm talking about modifying the circuit, but i really don't think you should be messing with it unless you know what you're doing, as everything might break (and your warranty is gone)

inline balance controller: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/110890076320

I've found exactly that one. Thanks!

I could't find any alternative. A lone seller from Australia. Ironic how the global capitalism works. :)

I wonder if those apparently cheap components would alter the SQ.

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I've found exactly that one. Thanks!


I could't find any alternative. A lone seller from Australia. Ironic how the global capitalism works. smily_headphones1.gif


I wonder if those apparently cheap components would alter the SQ.

It most certainly will, however for that price you could "reverse-engineer" it, and build your own, with high quality components.
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