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Originally Posted by mattius88 View Post

Can anyone help? I've just put in 2 x 128gb microsd cards I have filled these up with mainly flac files & some mp3 files. I updated library with no cards in my x5, just to update the database correctly. I then put in the cards & then scanned them. It scanned 5800 files but some or all of the mp3's don't show in the library. However if I look under file browser then the mp3's are accessible. Any suggestions?

i think thats one of the current issues only able to display a max of 5800 files in the library :o

post #9152 of 11227
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Originally Posted by mattius88 View Post

Can anyone help? I've just put in 2 x 128gb microsd cards I have filled these up with mainly flac files & some mp3 files. I updated library with no cards in my x5, just to update the database correctly. I then put in the cards & then scanned them. It scanned 5800 files but some or all of the mp3's don't show in the library. However if I look under file browser then the mp3's are accessible. Any suggestions?

 

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Originally Posted by fumoffuXx View Post
 

i think thats one of the current issues only able to display a max of 5800 files in the library :o

 

fumoffuXx is correct. 5800 tracks is the current limitation.

 

My understanding is that the database is on internal storage and that storage is limited. AFAIK FiiO is currently working to have the tracks database stored on the micro sd cards to allow for more than 5800 tracks.

 

For more details : https://app.devzing.com/FiiO/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=79

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Originally Posted by fumoffuXx View Post

i think thats one of the current issues only able to display a max of 5800 files in the library redface.gif
is that likely to change? Why does it have a 5800 limit?
post #9154 of 11227
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Originally Posted by mattius88 View Post


is that likely to change? Why does it have a 5800 limit?

lots of posts in the forum regarding this issue.

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Originally Posted by mattius88 View Post


is that likely to change? Why does it have a 5800 limit?


The post above yours explains it.

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I just love that the X5 has some sort of tagging even for WAV files. :)

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Thanks folks! Guest I'll just use the folder browsing facility, that let's me access all 8825 tracks ☺
Edited by mattius88 - 5/12/14 at 12:18pm
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I can't explain why, but my X5 is sounding better than the first days, and it can't only be because of brain break-in. I suspect some capacitor changes or something along the lines. I'm still not completely happy with the headphones out, but I see myself using it without the E12 with all my <80 Ohms headphones.
Weird things happen on the audio realm...

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Not sure if has been mentioned, however - when charging X5 [& E12], can hear the CPU when changing tracks (pressing buttons)...
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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post

Not sure if has been mentioned, however - when charging X5 [& E12], can hear the CPU when changing tracks (pressing buttons)...

What do you hear?
post #9161 of 11227
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Originally Posted by Age8E View Post
 

 

We're all allowed to have different notions of which features and fixes are more pressing. There's a lot of bellyaching going on about minor UI issues and button functions that simply aren't much of an issue for me personally. In much the same way that you might not use Last.fm, others of us might not wear the X5 in a pocket and therefore not experience the problems with accidental button presses. That's what the voting system is there to resolve; it's democratic.

 

As it is, the Bugzilla list is already getting messy, with several bugs having duplicate entries made by folks who didn't really look at the list before posting. That complicates things for Joe and the other guys at FiiO, and creates extra work for everybody. It would be helpful overall if everybody would give it a more careful look-over before commenting, voting and submitting.

I didn't pay $350 for a product with a crowd-sourced, democratically-decided GUI.  I don't want some unqualified random on the street deciding how I get to use my device.  I paid $350 for what I thought was a mid-range DAP made by a company with trained software engineers that know what they're doing.  Now, I don't know what qualifications you have, Age8E, but I have none in this field whatsoever.  What I do know is that adding New Features such as Last.fm scrobbling and m3u compatibility should not take precedence over fixing flaws in the existing firmware.  At the very least, if you build on a flawed foundation, you end up with a shaky end-product.  So, before you ask for a jacuzzi in this new house, wait till the builders have fixed the plumbing.  After all, what good's the jacuzzi if you get human excrement coming up the backflow?

 

Now, I don't blame the posters on this thread, or those who voted on Bugzilla, for some of the stupid decisions they've made - but I don't have to like those decisions.  Personally, I blame Fiio for leaving something as important as this in the hands of end-users.

 

Frankly, that I should have to even say these things means that no-one here appears to be qualified to make decisions that affect this product.

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Originally Posted by HarryHardcase View Post
 

I didn't pay $350 for a product with a crowd-sourced, democratically-decided GUI.  I don't want some unqualified random on the street deciding how I get to use my device.  I paid $350 for what I thought was a mid-range DAP made by a company with trained software engineers that know what they're doing.  Now, I don't know what qualifications you have, Age8E, but I have none in this field whatsoever.  What I do know is that adding New Features such as Last.fm scrobbling and m3u compatibility should not take precedence over fixing flaws in the existing firmware.  At the very least, if you build on a flawed foundation, you end up with a shaky end-product.  So, before you ask for a jacuzzi in this new house, wait till the builders have fixed the plumbing.  After all, what good's the jacuzzi if you get human excrement coming up the backflow?

 

Now, I don't blame the posters on this thread, or those who voted on Bugzilla, for some of the stupid decisions they've made - but I don't have to like those decisions.  Personally, I blame Fiio for leaving something as important as this in the hands of end-users.

 

Frankly, that I should have to even say these things means that no-one here appears to be qualified to make decisions that affect this product.

I have to say that I mostly agree with you. Basic functionality should not have to be fixed in the first place, and much less on a crowd-voted basis. You don't see any mention whatsoever on the Fiio website that the firmware is a work in progress. They sell the X5 as a finished, mature, delicate DAP, when it is not (on a firmware level).

I am quite happy with my X5 and will patiently wait for the firmware updates. Even though I paid for what I thought was a solid performer, and it was not, I will wait for Fiio to fix it. It is worth the wait. The X5 is a great DAP, even with so many flaws (way too many).

But, I am pretty pissed on this crowd-whatever that is flooding the R&D of so many companies, allowing them to ship unfinished, unpolished and ever-changing products.

Fiio: please, be upfront about it, and do mention that the firmware will get better and better. And say it loud. People get upset when they find out the firmware has more holes than a colander.

HarryHardcase: calm down and give it some time. The X5 is a very nice DAP, unfinished, but very worth it.


Edited by Muenchener - 5/12/14 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by HarryHardcase View Post
 

I didn't pay $350 for a product with a crowd-sourced, democratically-decided GUI.  I don't want some unqualified random on the street deciding how I get to use my device.  I paid $350 for what I thought was a mid-range DAP made by a company with trained software engineers that know what they're doing.  Now, I don't know what qualifications you have, Age8E, but I have none in this field whatsoever.  What I do know is that adding New Features such as Last.fm scrobbling and m3u compatibility should not take precedence over fixing flaws in the existing firmware.  At the very least, if you build on a flawed foundation, you end up with a shaky end-product.  So, before you ask for a jacuzzi in this new house, wait till the builders have fixed the plumbing.  After all, what good's the jacuzzi if you get human excrement coming up the backflow?

 

Now, I don't blame the posters on this thread, or those who voted on Bugzilla, for some of the stupid decisions they've made - but I don't have to like those decisions.  Personally, I blame Fiio for leaving something as important as this in the hands of end-users.

 

Frankly, that I should have to even say these things means that no-one here appears to be qualified to make decisions that affect this product.

 

Do you see the contradiction in questioning the "qualifications" of others who have voted on Bugzilla when you admit you don't have any? And in any case, I'm genuinely curious to know what qualifications one needs, in order to have a valid opinion on which bugs and features are most important to be addressed on a device... aside from having purchased said device much like you did.

 

I've been reading Head-Fi a lot longer than I've been posting here, but this is one of the more knowledgeable forums I've yet seen where it comes to portable audio. It's not just a rabble of monkeys clicking "vote" on whichever Bugzilla entry looks the prettiest.

 

Try to keep in mind: What you consider a flaw and what someone else considers a flaw may not be the same thing, but that doesn't make their opinion less valid. For many of us, lacking playlist support on a portable music device is a huge flaw, and more important than having eighteen different configuration options for buttons that suit every single user's quirks.

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Originally Posted by HarryHardcase View Post
 

I didn't pay $350 for a product with a crowd-sourced, democratically-decided GUI.  I don't want some unqualified random on the street deciding how I get to use my device.  I paid $350 for what I thought was a mid-range DAP made by a company with trained software engineers that know what they're doing.  

 

Be careful or the Fiio brigade will jump on you for questioning their favorite brand...

 

I agree 100% I have never hated a product so much in my life and loved it at the same time. Very odd lol

 

Every time James, who I am a big fan of, explains some of his decisions it always comes down to how the Chinese ppl use their device. If their use of DAPs is so different from us then I hope there is an X7 World Edition and an X7 China Edition.

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I think the unit is in no way perfect but it's very workable in terms of the UI. There are some bugs I'd like to be addressed still. But I am not sh*tting bricks about it. Overall I'm very happy with the unit as is. You think the UI is bad you should have tried the SFLO2. Would bring some perspective as to how far they've come.

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