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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

Well this line of thinking only work if O2 is your reference for neutrality. It's certainly not mine.


You may have issues with the O2, but given the obviously flat frequency response demonstrated by these measurements (http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/o2-headphone-amp.html#measurements) I don't see how you can suggest that the O2 in any way boosts bass. So yes, I think for purposes of frequency response the O2 does indeed represent neutrality.

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I dont consider the O2 amp to be dead neutral. If anything the O2 is colored itself. Overly sterile and very foward/aggressive. Yet its sound staging is stretched very wide making for an unnatural sound. Due to this the sound lacks depth.
Edited by lee730 - Yesterday at 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Canaudio View Post
 

Gapless play back, but at what cost?

 

I'm using beta firmware 1.23 and I can confirm that it handles the transition from one track to the next without a hiccup, but when I open or start a new song, there is zero "lead-in" and it sounds like the opening notes of the song are truncated.  There needs to be some work done to preserve some lead-in on new tracks while also providing gapless playback between tracks.

 

Thanks for this.  ^  

 

Looks like I'll be waiting a bit longer...

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Is there more then one custom equalizer in the new firmware > 1.20 ?

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I have found that my X5 sounds a little improved using the line-out and an external amp.

 

With my se530 - using a slee voyager portable amp. the iems sound a little more full/deep especially with bass guitars/double-bass and more liquid in the mid-range, alos (and the reason I use them - the treble has far more sparkle/weight). It is only when I listen careful is the difference is noticeable to any extent (apart from the treble) though and for casual listening or using them in more noisy environments, the difference would be negligible.

 

The same happens with my nad hp50 and I use a neco soundlabs (uk) amp. with these as the synergy is better than with the voyager.

 

So my conclusions are that indeed the x5 is better with an external amplifier but it is necessary to listen carefully and in good listening conditions i.e.quiet environment and that headphone/amp synergy is critical.


Edited by magicalmouse - Today at 4:10 am
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Originally Posted by irablumberg View Post


You may have issues with the O2, but given the obviously flat frequency response demonstrated by these measurements (http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/o2-headphone-amp.html#measurements) I don't see how you can suggest that the O2 in any way boosts bass. So yes, I think for purposes of frequency response the O2 does indeed represent neutrality.

Just about every SS headphone manufacturer publishes flat frequency response, high SNR and low distortion figures for their headphone amps.

For example:
FiiO E12, turn off the bass boost and the frequency response is flat until you get out to 40 Hz and 25 kHz where it starts to drop.
http://fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000038732625&MenuID=105026001
Going by the measurements, the E12 is neutral too.
But when you try listening to the two amps side by side, well, others may call it differently.
Edited by Chris J - Today at 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by magicalmouse View Post
 

I have found that my X5 sounds a little improved using the line-out and an external amp.

 

With my se530 - using a slee voyager portable amp. the iems sound a little more full/deep especially with bass guitars/double-bass and more liquid in the mid-range, alos (and the reason I use them - the treble has far more sparkle/weight). It is only when I listen careful is the difference is noticeable to any extent (apart from the treble) though and for casual listening or using them in more noisy environments, the difference would be negligible.

 

The same happens with my nad hp50 and I use a neco soundlabs (uk) amp. with these as the synergy is better than with the voyager.

 

So my conclusions are that indeed the x5 is better with an external amplifier but it is necessary to listen carefully and in good listening conditions i.e.quiet environment and that headphone/amp synergy is critical.


So no misunderstanding exists.  All DAP's sound better with external amplifiers just as a home system would sound with better amplification, mostly separate components. Now the question is which amp or component to use.  Answer is, whatever sounds better to you.......Audition is a wonderful thing, so enjoy!

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Hi guys, I was wondering how well the X5 stands compared to some high-end desktop DACs.  This is regarding it's performance of the DAC only.  

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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

Hi guys, I was wondering how well the X5 stands compared to some high-end desktop DACs.  This is regarding it's performance of the DAC only.  

Got any DAC in mind? It might help you get a more satisfying answer smily_headphones1.gif

(I don't own any, i use my X5 for it, and my X3 before that)
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Got mine today! The wheel is a touch flimsy but I think it should be able to stay put with normal usage. I just wonder if the stiffness of the wheel is uniform with every X5 (I hope it is)... The sound is very detailed especially the texture of the lows compared with my E17. It really is a HUGE step up from E17 in terms of SQ. This is now my currently best source and I love it! smily_headphones1.gif More power FiiO!!!
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