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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

 

Interesting enough (or maybe just lucky enough) that I don't have much problem with my DX50.

 

 

As you probably fully aware, pricing is often what determines performance when you listen with eyes. :tongue:

 

Agreed, costs is not everything obviously, else the X5 would be a pass. There is a lot to be said about a hi-res dap that is as good sq wise as cheap (or should I politely say easy on one's wallet), that is the engineering challenge. Fiio seems to be ahead of the pack on that count.

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Shots fired. I think you'd find the Bender "I'll start my own...with" meme quite to your liking.

Jokes aside, there are merits to both players. MODERN iDevices, MBAs excluded, offer great UI and stability. Sound, save for slightly skewed treble, is cleaner and darn better than a good deal of the audiophile DAPs on tne market. They are easy to use and work each and every time. If one has a problem, then it is a matter of simply going to a local Apple store and asking for a new one.

Fiio has done a excellent job of matching and even surpassing, at least from my limited experience with them, Apple's much vaunted customer service. Though not as perfectly polished as Apple products, Fiio's released are always getting better, and buyers rarely feel like beta testers. I do acknowledge that the X3 had its share of problems at first, but is that not to be expected of a smaller company's freshman DAP effort?

Fiio has dramatically advanced over the past few years, expanding from the budget to mid-fi market. Although they may lack Apple's billions in cash reserves, the tried and true method of trying again and doing better has worked damn well for them. UI finish and stability seems to be down pat for the X5, and BQ looks to be miles ahead of the DX50--which brings me to my next point.

Aside from the DX100, iBasso has been on a steady decline. The DX50, as every and any clear thinking owner will admit, is junk. It feels, looks, and sounds like the cheap Chinese player it is. When I received my DX50, I even needed to check with iBasso to make sure that what I was holding in my hands was a legitimate player--the metal finish seemed fake, it rang hollow, and felt like a heat-molded hunk of plastic. UI was, and still is, absolute crap, and the stream of useless updates drove me mad. Worst of all, literally every single product I own had a better HP out.

I made friends listen. I made peers listen. I pretty much made strangers on the street listen. These masses of people, most of whom probably perceive skull pounding bass as a hallmark of sonic excellence, determined the DX50 to be a worthless piece of scrap. Common words to describe just the sound were "muted," "tinny," "boomy," "bad," "muddled," and "fake."

Friends and peers who know me as that kid with the $50000 car, $5000 watch, $1500 headphones, etc. all asked how much I wasted on this "iPod thing." Close friends were relieved when I told them $250, and audiophiles were downright disappointed.

The X3, though, elicited a different response. Sure, I only had it for around a week while away from my home setup, but it was enough to get some great reactions from others who are able to compare it with my DX50 and iDevices. With better UI, roughly equivalent BQ, and (relatively) killer sound, all I approached thought that I'd spent a good deal more on it. Most didn't think that it sounded so much better that it merited being carried around in conjunction with my phone/wallet, but they enjoyed it nonetheless. The $200 price tag surprised all, intrigued some, and captivated the imaginations of a select few. I ended up giving it to my father, who had lost yet another iPod at the airport, and have missed it ever since.

I have great faith in Fiio that it will continue its rising pedigree with excellence, and do believe that iBasso will fade into obscurity. While the X3 is a great stand alone player, it is the X1 that really has the ability to penetrate the mainstream market. I want Fiio to succeed. I want the X1 to be viewed, even by the tech illiterate consumer, as something worth having. I want Fiio to have the cash flow to build the absolute best portable consumer audio products on the market. But as long as we are here in an iDevice vs DAP circle jerk and not listing real, important feedback, we sure as heck aren't helping.
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hehe, funny. now back to topic please :)

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How wasn't that on topic? biggrin.gif
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Guys, whenever you feel like posting the word "you" in reply to a post, please stop and think again. Whenever you start discussing each other instead of discussing the topic in hand, inevitably the discussion becomes rude and abusive. I'm going going to PM every one of you that had a post deleted for this reason, just stop and think about it before I get pissed off and start putting your accounts in proverbial read-only mode for a month, OK?

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@James: Fairly soon after its release, an update for the X3 significantly improved battery life. Can we expect something similar with the X5, or has the software already been optimized for power efficiency? Thank you, and happy new year.
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

 

Interesting enough (or maybe just lucky enough) that I don't have much problem with my DX50.
I agree ClieOS, some were very lucky. To bad we all weren't.
This question is for Fiio and only for Fiio to answer:

Hi James, people on here like to call me DF for short, its a pleasure to speak with you online. Can you please detail for all of us the type of R&D that was undertaken in developing the X5's UI as well as the group mind think behind the X5 hardware implementation. Recently me and others like me have become unimpressed with some of the so called audiophile DAP market offerings concerning the user experience and would hope Fiio has not chosen to go the same route as other companies in the market by using their customers as beta testers. I'm not expecting a DAP that's flawless by any means but I think I'm not alone in voicing my concerns on knowing whether or not the X5's advertised features will be passably functional. What I mean by this for example is I hope that features such as playlists, file and tagging support, SDCard scanning, and UI fluidity will all be passably functional upon product release. I think none of us here care to see a launch of the X5 that's as rocky and bug ridden as other manufacturers DAP's have been in the past. I'm hoping some information concerning UI implementation as well as maybe a detailed road map and action plan pertaining to future firmware updates concerning any possible unforeseen bugs that may rear their ugly heads would set all our minds at ease. Again, I'm not expecting a flawless UI and fully understand that no matter how hard a company tries there will always be growing pains when a new DAP is released but I would hope that Fiio, as a company, is prepared for these inevitable growing pains with some sort of action plan in order to keep its customer base happy with their purchase.

Thank you in advance for your time, me and others on this thread look forward to reading your response
Regards
DF
Edited by DigitalFreak - 12/30/13 at 1:00am
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

Funny. Millions of people have never had a problem with itunes. I just plug in my ipod/iphone, go brush my teeth or something, and come back to find them filled with new music that is ready to be listened to. I've never once had to rescan or refresh a library, or worry about formatting.

 

RE: audiophile players, the HPO of my iPhone 4 sounds cleaner and more dynamic than many  most dedicated portable amps I've owned/listened to. Still, people are ready to jump down Apple's throat. I've had desktop gear that isn't as clean as the iP4's HPO.

That's because PCs are crappy.:tongue_smile: That said I think a few of the Iphones and touches are under rated. Still, I have had a few things I prefer and the current classic doesn't do a thing for me.

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

That's because PCs are crappy.:tongue_smile: That said I think a few of the Iphones and touches are under rated. Still, I have had a few things I prefer and the current classic doesn't do a thing for me.


i think its a compromise(i tunes) that ppl are willing to do considering the other features of i devices,but there is no doubt it is not a plus point

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PC,s aren,t crappy, Apple never bothered to build a proper Windows port.

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Originally Posted by gikigill View Post
 

PC,s aren,t crappy, Apple never bothered to build a proper Windows port.


lol,,u nailed it

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Can we drop the Apple/Windows chatter? I thought we laid that horse to rest long ago.
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So when do we get the trial X5 units?

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Originally Posted by gikigill View Post
 

So when do we get the trial X5 units?


Its a bit of riot on fiio board that the fans are really anxious about when the release will happen in China. I think they are doing something about the wheel and target to release to market in Jan.

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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post
 


Its a bit of riot on fiio board that the fans are really anxious about when the release will happen in China. I think they are doing something about the wheel and target to release to market in Jan.


I ask the obvious and ask what's wrong with the wheel?

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