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post #12196 of 12545
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Originally Posted by Dom Isaac View Post
 

Does anyone have issues with the sound coming out from the X5's DAC from a win 8.1 computer? The sound from the DAC skips spontaneously it's like it has been disconnected and then reconnected it back again and i'd not touched the connection. I'd had disabled the driver signature before installing the DAC driver.

 

I think I had this the other day when I accidentally used WASAPI instead of the FiiO ASIO driver

post #12197 of 12545

Thanks for the quick response. Neither of it worked. Somehow i noticed disconnections while i was adding/removing songs to and from my X5.

post #12198 of 12545
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

 

I think I had this the other day when I accidentally used WASAPI instead of the FiiO ASIO driver

 

How do i get to change it?

post #12199 of 12545
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Originally Posted by xp9433 View Post
 

FlatListener

 

Don't know about you, but most people I know who use an iPod are also listening to MP3's.

While an external amp bypassing the iPod internal amp can be an improvement, it will not match:

1. Using full resolution music files 44.1kHz or above - big improvement

2. Digital feed to a good external DAC/amp. E.g. Android phone > Fiio E18 (only available to a small select group of DAC's from an iPod)

3. In this discussion, using high resolution files downloaded to microSD Cards on X5, which is better SQ again over option 2. above, and way ahead of option 1.

You use higher resolution files, through a better DAC, and a better amp - that will drive almost any headphone. And with one unit you will have your better pocket feel.

 

Cheers

Frank

Hi Frank, thanks for your advice! I checked my library. Apple Lossless files are 44.1 kHz, 16bit. 320 kbps mp3's are 44.1 kHz. Of all Apple lossless files I still have kept the FLAC version. I converted from FLAC to Apple Lossless using MAX (I'm a Mac user). 

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Originally Posted by xp9433 View Post
 

FlatListener

 

Don't know about you, but most people I know who use an iPod are also listening to MP3's.

While an external amp bypassing the iPod internal amp can be an improvement, it will not match:

1. Using full resolution music files 44.1kHz or above - big improvement

2. Digital feed to a good external DAC/amp. E.g. Android phone > Fiio E18 (only available to a small select group of DAC's from an iPod)

3. In this discussion, using high resolution files downloaded to microSD Cards on X5, which is better SQ again over option 2. above, and way ahead of option 1.

You use higher resolution files, through a better DAC, and a better amp - that will drive almost any headphone. And with one unit you will have your better pocket feel.

 

Cheers

Frank

Hi Frank, thanks for your advice! I checked my library. Apple Lossless files are 44.1 kHz, 16bit. 320 kbps mp3's are 44.1 kHz. Of all Apple lossless files I still have kept the CD's and/or FLAC version. I converted from FLAC to Apple Lossless using MAX (I'm a Mac user). 

To be honest I've never looked into high resolution audio files. I will do a search on the net as to what they are and how I can obtain them. I wonder if this operation is pricey as I've already spent a fortune on hundreds of CD's, which apparently have limited audio quality now. I'm afraid I'll have to buy the same songs again and pay double for artist rights. Anyway, like I said, I will go and search first.

 

Do I understand your last line correctly if I conclude I only need the X3/X5 player - and not a separate DAC or amp - and hi-res audio files to benefit option 3? Is there any reason to get the X5 instead of the X3 in this respect?

 

Thanks!

post #12200 of 12545
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Originally Posted by FlatListener View Post
 

"320 kbps mp3's are 44.1 kHz"

 

"Do I understand your last line correctly if I conclude I only need the X3/X5 player - and not a separate DAC or amp - and hi-res audio files to benefit option 3? Is there any reason to get the X5 instead of the X3 in this respect?"

FlatListener

 

Your MP3's resolution are at 320 kilobites per second - CD's are 44,100 kilobites per second - significant difference. Ignore mp3's are 44.1Hz,  - not sure what that is intended to convey, perhaps the mp3's were derived from 44.1kHz files?

 

Haven't had the X3, but the X5 has a very good DAC and a capable amp that will drive most headphones very well. It would not be normal to match expensive hard-to-drive headphones with the budget but very capable X5. What is for sure, the X5 playing 44.1kHz files will give you better SQ than your iPod playing mp3's through a portable amp.

 

You would not normally load files of higher than CD resolution onto the SD Cards/X5 as they take up too much hard drive space. However, you can hook your X5 up to your computer, and use a good player like Jriver to upsample 44.1kHz files or handle higher resolution files. This gives slightly better SQ, IMO, than loading 44.1kHz files onto the X5.

 

Frank

post #12201 of 12545
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Originally Posted by Dom Isaac View Post
 

Thanks for the quick response. Neither of it worked. Somehow i noticed disconnections while i was adding/removing songs to and from my X5.

When you are adding songs to the X5 via the same USB connection you are using to drive the DAC you are overloading that connection severely and dropouts should be expected. Touch you forehead and say "Doh!".

post #12202 of 12545

44100 kb per second would be around 44 mb per second.  A 5 minute song would be around 13 gigs with that calculation.

post #12203 of 12545

It's actually 14xx (1428?) compared to 320k, I forget what the xx part is. The point is, the person with the 320k MP3 wants to believe it's as good as a lossless file. It isn't.

It's close, for many it's fine, but it is not the same. Myself, I can hear and appreciate the difference. For those who cannot, bonus! They can have twice as many songs in the same amount of space.

post #12204 of 12545
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Originally Posted by xp9433 View Post
 

FlatListener

 

Your MP3's resolution are at 320 kilobites per second - CD's are 44,100 kilobites per second - significant difference. Ignore mp3's are 44.1Hz,  - not sure what that is intended to convey, perhaps the mp3's were derived from 44.1kHz files?

 

Haven't had the X3, but the X5 has a very good DAC and a capable amp that will drive most headphones very well. It would not be normal to match expensive hard-to-drive headphones with the budget but very capable X5. What is for sure, the X5 playing 44.1kHz files will give you better SQ than your iPod playing mp3's through a portable amp.

 

You would not normally load files of higher than CD resolution onto the SD Cards/X5 as they take up too much hard drive space. However, you can hook your X5 up to your computer, and use a good player like Jriver to upsample 44.1kHz files or handle higher resolution files. This gives slightly better SQ, IMO, than loading 44.1kHz files onto the X5.

 

Frank


44.1KHz for MP3s is intended to convey exactly the same thing as for CDs and it is not the bitrate which for CDs is around fourteen hundred or so most definitely not 44000.........

post #12205 of 12545

Currently, I've got an ipod classic w/ lossless files; I always use a line out. I have a C5 purchased but never really used; its been for sale forever. I just picked up a pair of Etymotic ER4S at 100ohm; they're better when amped. I'm attracted to the X5 because it seems like I may get better sound quality than the ipod classic. But I've got a few questions regarding how it compares to other amps, if anyone has time. 

  • Is the X5 amp good enough to not need an external amp w/ a hard to drive iem? I see lots of people are strill strapping this to an amp, and not just for hard to drive headphones.
  • By getting the X5 and selling the Classic/C5 combo, what am I misssing out on? Or is it all a win? 
  • In your opionion is the X5 amp better than the C5 (for those who've heard both)? I'm curious to what amps its comparable to. 
post #12206 of 12545

Just to clarify things as I remember:  MP3s are up to 320kb/s-41,100Hz.

CDs are 1411(or 1410)kb/s at 41,100Hz.

And I've always used ALAC files since I heard about them and I really don't find anything wrong with them: personal preference is all.

I much prefer my X5 to either of my IPod Classics I've owned.  Sometimes, I use my UHA-6 II for amplification and it's a small but noticeable improvement over the HPO.

Just a couple of oppinions in general and i HTH.

post #12207 of 12545

Just saw this in an email about ReplayGain on Bugzilla - ReplayGain user rejoice! (Hopefully) :popcorn:

 

I've received word from James that this will be added to the X1 at some point, so I assume the same applies to the X5 :)
post #12208 of 12545
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

Just saw this in an email about ReplayGain on Bugzilla - ReplayGain user rejoice! (Hopefully) popcorn.gif
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I've received word from James that this will be added to the X1 at some point, so I assume the same applies to the X5 :)

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Edited by nmatheis - 8/31/14 at 5:24pm
post #12209 of 12545
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

Just saw this in an email about ReplayGain on Bugzilla - ReplayGain user rejoice! (Hopefully) popcorn.gif
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I've received word from James that this will be added to the X1 at some point, so I assume the same applies to the X5 :)

AWWWWW YEAH! If only my paycheck will come now so that I can grab the X5 and help test that out...
post #12210 of 12545
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Originally Posted by UELong View Post
 

Just to clarify things as I remember:  MP3s are up to 320kb/s-41,100Hz.

CDs are 1411(or 1410)kb/s at 41,100Hz.

New I should have stayed in bed this morning. Believe it or not I knew that, My bad.

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