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post #12016 of 13839
"the new pop/rock stuff is really no different from what I've seen."

If you are in to Green Day the hi rez versions are mastered with significantly more DR than the CDs.
post #12017 of 13839
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Posting answers from Joe on the question of SQ changes from 2.0 (including Betas) through to current 2.20 final.

Here is what I asked:

1) Did you change anything that would affect frequency response (or codec) in moving from any of the 2.xx series through to 2.2 official release?

2) Has there been anything else changed - especially between 2.0 and 2.2 to account for "perceived" sonic changes by some members of the forum?

His simple answers - "no" and "none"

Hopefully that puts this issue of sonic changes to rest .........

 

I'm tempted to bet you that it won't :tongue_smile: 

post #12018 of 13839
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Originally Posted by goldendarko View Post

Yeah, it would be nice if they did that, unfortunately you basically have to do your own research whether a purchase is worth it or not, I think most older recordings seem to be better, the new pop/rock stuff is really no different from what I've seen. Another good forum to check is computer audiophile, there are many threads there that discuss HDTracks releases, some being great and some being very poor too.

 

I think thwre are several factors other thann the "high-ness of the rez" that determine the sonic quality of these recordings, including, but not limited to:

 

1. sonic quality of the original recording, 2. condition of the master tapes 3. quality of the mastering gear and the 'ear' of the people doing the (re)mastering 4 resolution of the original recording, i.e., if it was a great analog recording, converting to high rez digital makes more sense than trying to upcovert redbook files, if making a (digital) recording from scratch, recording in high rez is going to be better than doing it in redboox (again using great equipment, mics, ect. and with people who can hear well and have good sonic judgment....

 

So, I'd restrict my buying/experienting to great analog originals, great direct to high rez recordings, and lastly upsampled or less downsampled 'pcm' recordings of good/great sunding recordings.

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Roughly what year did hi-res recording start in the studios?  I recall Mark Knopfler mentioned recording at least 96k for his Ragpicker's dream release in the early 2000's.  When can we assume  that we  could expect to receive actual hi-res as opposed to up-sampled materiel?

post #12020 of 13839
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Posting answers from Joe on the question of SQ changes from 2.0 (including Betas) through to current 2.20 final.

Here is what I asked:

1) Did you change anything that would affect frequency response (or codec) in moving from any of the 2.xx series through to 2.2 official release?

2) Has there been anything else changed - especially between 2.0 and 2.2 to account for "perceived" sonic changes by some members of the forum?

His simple answers - "no" and "none"

Hopefully that puts this issue of sonic changes to rest .........

Same thing's happen with DX90. Many owners noticed sound sig changes between FW releases. iBasso claims they didn't do synth to explicitly change sound sig. It could either be placebo or unintentional alteration of sound sig. I tend to think the latter, as I noticed (as did many others) a definite change in sound sig on X3 with FW 2.14b even though Joe said no changes to sound sig were intentionally introduced by Fiio.
post #12021 of 13839
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

 

I'm tempted to bet you that it won't :tongue_smile: 

 

Yep - guaranteed.  Started already.  Will be interesting when ClieOS posts his findings.  I couldn't tell the difference in the quick ABX I did.  Mind you I can't tell any difference between FW versions (using FLAC redbook) anyway ;).

 

The believers will make their claims .......

post #12022 of 13839
@Brooko: X5 -> E12 DIY -> T-PEOS Altone 200 sounds damn fine 😄. Bought Altones after reading your (and H2O's) review. Really enjoying this combo!
post #12023 of 13839
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Originally Posted by nmatheis View Post

@Brooko: X5 -> E12 DIY -> T-PEOS Altone 200 sounds damn fine 😄. Bought Altones after reading your (and H2O's) review. Really enjoying this combo!
Yes - they are pretty special - and amazing value. I managed to pick up an XBA-4 for an incredibly good price last week (too good to turn down), so will be reviewing them soon. And Vic just sent me the Fidue A83 to trial - it is incredible. X5 definitely getting a good workout!
post #12024 of 13839
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Originally Posted by UELong View Post

Roughly what year did hi-res recording start in the studios?  I recall Mark Knopfler mentioned recording at least 96k for his Ragpicker's dream release in the early 2000's.  When can we assume  that we  could expect to receive actual hi-res as opposed to up-sampled materiel?

I think it's more a question of when digital recording became a thing.

As the Compact Disc came out in 1985, i think that could be the start of digital recording...

Can't help you any further as i lack knowledge of this all...
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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post


I think it's more a question of when digital recording became a thing.

As the Compact Disc came out in 1985, i think that could be the start of digital recording...

Can't help you any further as i lack knowledge of this all...

 

AFAIK the 1st full digital recording was Dire Staits and Brothers in Arms. GRP records (Jazz) also started full digital recordings about that time as well. If you are looking for well produced albums that sound superb and not necessarily Hi-Res you could start with Steely Dan/Donald Fagen.

 

This might also interest you;

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRP_Records

 

http://www.stuff.tv/music/30-greatest-audiophile-albums/feature

 

http://www.alkooper.com/hot100.html


Edited by mullos - 8/22/14 at 11:56pm
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I'm sorry guys to ask you this, I just received my X5 today. So after I test it for more than an hour I  peeled of the protective layer of the screen protector, then suddenly I noticed that there is a brushed looking smudge inside the screen. Is this normal with your X5? or should I contact the seller regarding this issue and ask for a return? Please click on the link for the photos. TIA!

 

http://www.dropbox.com/s/fxtnkjaimxprvcy/20140823_185911.jpg?dl=0

http://www.dropbox.com/s/fdc8rmgfoz3sg5t/20140823_185817.jpg?dl=0

http://www.dropbox.com/s/2p4nthmb86rmagx/20140823_185849.jpg?dl=0

post #12027 of 13839
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Originally Posted by biohazard31 View Post
 

I'm sorry guys to ask you this, I just received my X5 today. So after I test it for more than an hour I  peeled of the protective layer of the screen protector, then suddenly I noticed that there is a brushed looking smudge inside the screen. Is this normal with your X5? or should I contact the seller regarding this issue and ask for a return? Please click on the link for the photos. TIA!

 

http://www.dropbox.com/s/fxtnkjaimxprvcy/20140823_185911.jpg?dl=0

http://www.dropbox.com/s/fdc8rmgfoz3sg5t/20140823_185817.jpg?dl=0

http://www.dropbox.com/s/2p4nthmb86rmagx/20140823_185849.jpg?dl=0

 

Pretty sure that is the glitch some of us have seen with the new firmware.  Try going into Setting > Restore Factory Defaults.  Then power off the X5, wait a few seconds, then power it back on.  Hopefully that should fix the glitched screen, and instead you'll see the Fiio animated start screen.

post #12028 of 13839
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Originally Posted by biohazard31 View Post

I'm sorry guys to ask you this, I just received my X5 today. So after I test it for more than an hour I  peeled of the protective layer of the screen protector, then suddenly I noticed that there is a brushed looking smudge inside the screen. Is this normal with your X5? or should I contact the seller regarding this issue and ask for a return? Please click on the link for the photos. TIA!

http://www.dropbox.com/s/fxtnkjaimxprvcy/20140823_185911.jpg?dl=0
http://www.dropbox.com/s/fdc8rmgfoz3sg5t/20140823_185817.jpg?dl=0
http://www.dropbox.com/s/2p4nthmb86rmagx/20140823_185849.jpg?dl=0

This is because of the screen protector, nothing to worry about smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Pretty sure that is the glitch some of us have seen with the new firmware.  Try going into Setting > Restore Factory Defaults.  Then power off the X5, wait a few seconds, then power it back on.  Hopefully that should fix the glitched screen, and instead you'll see the Fiio animated start screen.

This isn't something in the software, barely even in the hardware...
post #12029 of 13839
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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post

This isn't something in the software, barely even in the hardware...

 

Yep you're right - at first glance his first photo looked like the glitch I (and a few others) were experiencing with start-up.  Realised now (after finding original photos) that it's a different 'look' to the screen.

post #12030 of 13839
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Yep you're right - at first glance his first photo looked like the glitch I (and a few others) were experiencing with start-up.  Realised now (after finding original photos) that it's a different 'look' to the screen.

The glitch you're experiencing i managed to recreate by flashing a modified X3.fw to the device, i believe it's to do with image being misread. If you're still experiencing this, you could try syncing an "empty" firmware version, then reflash with normal firmware.

Imageless firmware is just the normal firmware, unpacked, everything except for "sys.bin" removed, packed again. What i believe this'll do is delete all images in the operating system. I did it on my own X5, with no problem.
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