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Originally Posted by jbr1971 View Post
 

 

It's been a while since I read up on it, but if you have the true DSD stream files I believe you can use Foobar2000 to convert them to FLAC.

 

There were quite a few articles/sites that had info on ripping SACDs that I found through Google.


Thanks, jbr,

If I have a cd that is a hybrid, that is, it has both regular cd and SACD files, does that mean I have DSD stream files? I don't understand about the streaming part of it. I associate streaming with bluetooth, wireless transfer and formats like that.

If so, I will for sure start fooling around with Foobar!

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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 
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Originally Posted by jbr1971 View Post
 

 

It's been a while since I read up on it, but if you have the true DSD stream files I believe you can use Foobar2000 to convert them to FLAC.

 

There were quite a few articles/sites that had info on ripping SACDs that I found through Google.


Thanks, jbr,

If I have a cd that is a hybrid, that is, it has both regular cd and SACD files, does that mean I have DSD stream files? I don't understand about the streaming part of it. I associate streaming with bluetooth, wireless transfer and formats like that.

If so, I will for sure start fooling around with Foobar!

 

 

How are you getting the files from the CD? If you're getting them from a CD drive on your computer, then you are getting PCM files at redbook (16bit / 44.1khz).

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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

 

How are you getting the files from the CD? If you're getting them from a CD drive on your computer, then you are getting PCM files at redbook (16bit / 44.1khz).


I am installing a hybrid SACD cd into my cd/dvd drive, which automatically opens dbPowerAmp, so I am getting then, the PCM file. Rather than depending on the off chance of obtaining access to a Playstation that has the right codes, I imagine I can buy a cd player with SACD capability. Maybe I will someday.

Anyway, headfiers, thanks for all the help in clarifying this issue for me.

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Can someone please explain to me what the difference between the x5 international version and the x5 Japanese version is? I'm sure the answer is somewhere in this thread but I don't quite have the time to read through 10640 posts... Thanks for the help!

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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

 

How are you getting the files from the CD? If you're getting them from a CD drive on your computer, then you are getting PCM files at redbook (16bit / 44.1khz).


I am installing a hybrid SACD cd into my cd/dvd drive, which automatically opens dbPowerAmp, so I am getting then, the PCM file. Rather than depending on the off chance of obtaining access to a Playstation that has the right codes, I imagine I can buy a cd player with SACD capability. Maybe I will someday.

Anyway, headfiers, thanks for all the help in clarifying this issue for me.

dbPowerAmp is reading and ripping the CD layer, i.e. 16/44.1 and not the SACD layer, which is not allowed. Sony does not allow programs to exist that can rip the SACD layer. That is my understanding of it. I am sad about this as I can rip DVD-A discs and Blu-Ray discs just fine,although not with dbPowerAmp, but not my SACDs. Bah.

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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 


I am installing a hybrid SACD cd into my cd/dvd drive, which automatically opens dbPowerAmp, so I am getting then, the PCM file. Rather than depending on the off chance of obtaining access to a Playstation that has the right codes, I imagine I can buy a cd player with SACD capability. Maybe I will someday.

Anyway, headfiers, thanks for all the help in clarifying this issue for me.


I thought that buying an SACD player would solve this dilemma but the problem is that my laptop does not have hdmi connections and I don't think that usb is an option on any player for obtaining the DSD file. Anybody have another suggestion for obtaining the DSD file from an SACD?

Of course, I have in mind getting the file for my X5, so I do think this is actually on topic, right?


Edited by Ripvanlink - 6/25/14 at 1:43pm
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Thank you, Aangen,

Ronzoni es sono buoni, but Sony is full of baloney, lol.

post #10643 of 12604
Quick question...why would someone want an external amp with a device like the X5? Isn't the point to have an audiophile quality player/amp/DAC all in one?
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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 


I am installing a hybrid SACD cd into my cd/dvd drive, which automatically opens dbPowerAmp, so I am getting then, the PCM file. Rather than depending on the off chance of obtaining access to a Playstation that has the right codes, I imagine I can buy a cd player with SACD capability. Maybe I will someday.

Anyway, headfiers, thanks for all the help in clarifying this issue for me.


I thought that buying an SACD player would solve this dilemma but the problem is that my laptop does not have hdmi connections and I don't think that usb is an option on any player for obtaining the DSD file. Anybody have another suggestion for obtaining the DSD file from an SACD?

Of course, I have in mind getting the file for my X5, so I do think this is actually on topic, right?

 

 

Referring back to my post on the previous page, the really big deal about getting files from a PS3 is that up until that point there was no way to get DSD files from a SACD. As of now, is still is the only way to retrieve DSD files from SACDs. 

 

Either way, I don't think it's that big of a deal to have the actual DSD files. If I understand it correctly the X5 converts DSD to PCM internally, which only uses more CPU and wastes battery. What is really great about SACDs is that they are mastered differently, with more attention to quality. So if you're pulling PCM off of a SACD, it will definitely sound better than the "normal" CD, and I'm sure we could start a debate on if it sounds inferior to the DSD file. 

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Originally Posted by Sense View Post

Quick question...why would someone want an external amp with a device like the X5? Isn't the point to have an audiophile quality player/amp/DAC all in one?

 

Different folks - different strokes ....... or YMMV ;).

 

Personally speaking, the main reason I purchased the X5 was so that I had a great sounding player, that would hold all my music, and be playable on all of my headphones without the need for additional amping.

 

When I was reviewing it, I extensively tested the X5 (accurately volume matched with an SPL meter) on the same files compared to my desktop NFB-12.  There was essentially no change in dynamics with my full sized cans when compared to the NFB-12 (which is a powerful amp), and same with my IEMs.  I tested with the DT880 250 ohm and HD600.  I've recently purchased a Beyer T1, and it's great with that also.

 

So for me - it's an all in one solution.  Others prefer to amp (to them it provides better SQ).  I'd be interested to see other's comparisons under correct testing conditions (ie properly volume matched and blind tested) - but hey, if they are happy with their set-up, then that is all that matters.  It could also be that others have far better hearing than I do - and I readily accept that as a distinct possibility.  If they do - then that is to my advantage anyway - I have the more portable and cheaper set-up, and am completely happy for my standards/hearing.

 

My advice would be to try the X5 by itself - and compare it to your desktop set-up before looking to add additional amplification.  If you aren't getting enough volume, or think dynamics are lacking with the X5 by itself - then add amplification later.  Just remember to always volume match when comparing (and no - by ear is not good enough - use an SPL meter).

post #10646 of 12604
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Quick question...why would someone want an external amp with a device like the X5?

 

Aww...come on now...I realize you are relatively new to HeadFi, but you should know the answer:  ' Because they can '

post #10647 of 12604
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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post

Can someone please explain to me what the difference between the x5 international version and the x5 Japanese version is? I'm sure the answer is somewhere in this thread but I don't quite have the time to read through 10640 posts... Thanks for the help!
scroll wheel design only.
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scroll wheel design only.

That's a pretty big price jump for a different scroll wheel...

post #10649 of 12604

The amp of the x5 is good, but isn't the best.  For example, I can hear some 'fuzz' or people call 'warmpth' coming straight out from the headphone jack.  But with an external amp jds c5 and all silver cables to my jh16, there is no fuzz.  It's all so crystal clear and has fuller sounding bass.

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Originally Posted by Sense View Post

Quick question...why would someone want an external amp with a device like the X5? Isn't the point to have an audiophile quality player/amp/DAC all in one?

Edited by chengsta - 6/25/14 at 7:21pm
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some might need a better amplification. personally i prefer the line out to external amp rather than the x5 amp which i feel its boring

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