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Funny thing, I think I remember that silver has better conductive properties.  Is that true?

 

Silver and copper have better conductive properties than gold - but of course there are other factors that are involved. I just think the marketing of driver with gold material is kind of gimmicky. 

post #242 of 311
The metal coating of a mylar membrane is done to enhance its stability without adding too much weight. Gold is heavier than titan, but easier to apply. That is why titan coated drivers are used in the more expensive cans and gold In the less expensive ones. Is has nothing to do with th conductivety I believe. And the metal coating must not get in contsact with the voicecoil.
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post #243 of 311
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You could have this from the Signature line already, both models have a wonderfull human voice reproduction.

I'll respectfully disagree; the signature pro and especially the DJ did not do it for me.

post #244 of 311
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An HE6 with no bass is not a well driven HE6. This headphone produces one of the best bass I've heard in a headphone when scaled on a good speaker amp (one an LCD3 can't keep up with).

 

An ED12 with good representation of the human voice sounds like a winner to me. That's one thing I've never experienced with Ultrasone headphones (my previous ED8's were brutal). I'm curious to hear the ED12.

I'd suggest you haven't heard a properly driven LCD-3s. ;) When I listened to some really bass intensive tracks (even in movies) and all I did was come away with....just not natural sounding with the Hifimans. Chacun a son gout I suppose.

post #245 of 311
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I'd suggest you haven't heard a properly driven LCD-3s. ;) When I listened to some really bass intensive tracks (even in movies) and all I did was come away with....just not natural sounding with the Hifimans. Chacun a son gout I suppose.

I have yet to hear it on the GSX MKII, but the best I've heard out of the LCD3 was through the DNA Stratus, WA5, Vela Integrated speaker amp with resistor box and the BHA-1/BDA-2 stack.

 

The bass is indeed fantastic through these set-ups; it had more bloom and presence than with the HE6, but it was not quite as refined/resolved or impactful as the HE6 tapped to the Vela or my MC225.

post #246 of 311
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I have yet to hear it on the GSX MKII, but the best I've heard out of the LCD3 was through the DNA Stratus, WA5, Vela Integrated speaker amp with resistor box and the BHA-1/BDA-2 stack.

 

The bass is indeed fantastic through these set-ups; it had more bloom and presence than with the HE6, but it was not quite as refined/resolved or impactful as the HE6 tapped to the Vela or my MC225.

Not as impactful as the HE-6s? I find the bass pretty much better across the board with the LCD-3s. The HE-6s imaged better than the LCD-2s, but the LCD-3s caught up with them. But the LCD-X seem to have improved things again in that regard. If you're ever in Toronto, you're more than welcome to drop by for a listen. :smile: 

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Not as impactful as the HE-6s? I find the bass pretty much better across the board with the LCD-3s. The HE-6s imaged better than the LCD-2s, but the LCD-3s caught up with them. But the LCD-X seem to have improved things again in that regard. If you're ever in Toronto, you're more than welcome to drop by for a listen. :smile: 

I'd love to, maybe during mid december when I visit a friend in Mississauga. I'm really starting to think my LCD-3's were a bad apple even when returned from RMA; I don't understand! :o

post #248 of 311

Not much activity lately here.  Ultrasone does not appear to have much of a fan base.  Looks like the Grados and Ultrasones are kind of lepers in the world of headphones (at least in some camps).  Anyway, Since these appear to be good with classical music, I ordered a pair from Moon Audio and it should be in house on Monday.  It will definitely get interesting on Monday.  The next pair shall be the LCD-X (I'm still saving the Mulah for this one)!

post #249 of 311
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Not much activity lately here.  Ultrasone does not appear to have much of a fan base.  Looks like the Grados and Ultrasones are kind of lepers in the world of headphones (at least in some camps).  Anyway, Since these appear to be good with classical music, I ordered a pair from Moon Audio and it should be in house on Monday.  It will definitely get interesting on Monday.  The next pair shall be the LCD-X (I'm still saving the Mulah for this one)!

 

Congrats .... enjoy the 12's

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I'm nervous...with all the hate being spewed on Ultrasone by what appears to be a majority of head-fiers, it almost feels like I am going out on a date with Big Bertha on a ship destined to see the bottom of the see.  I just hope that I don't have to put the Edition 12s to sleep with the fishes.  By the way, Morty, so you have the GS1000s, eh?  I have their big brother, PS-1000s and I really love them.  These grados sound great with chamber music...they also have a super-spacious sound stage. They do splatter a bit with big Mahler symphonies (i.e., the Timpani and drums are too much for them), but at lower volumes they are smooth as butter.  Putting Grado and Ultrasone in the same paragraph will be enough to incite a rebellion at Head-fi.org!!!  Forgive my effrontery, my brothers and sisters!!!

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You are such a brave guy.....
post #252 of 311
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You are such a brave guy.....

Wow, Pietcux...looking at your headphone inventory it looks like you are an ultrasone kind of guy...you infidel!!! You'll burn like Joan of Arc...and I'll be following in your footsteps if I happen to like the Edition 12. The head-fier's are stoking the pyres!!!

post #253 of 311
I could need your opinion about the ED12, I could use an open Ultrasone. The PRO 2900 was too bright for me. Listening to Supertramp on my Sig Pro right now.
post #254 of 311
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I'm nervous...with all the hate being spewed on Ultrasone by what appears to be a majority of head-fiers, it almost feels like I am going out on a date with Big Bertha on a ship destined to see the bottom of the see.  I just hope that I don't have to put the Edition 12s to sleep with the fishes.  By the way, Morty, so you have the GS1000s, eh?  I have their big brother, PS-1000s and I really love them.  These grados sound great with chamber music...they also have a super-spacious sound stage. They do splatter a bit with big Mahler symphonies (i.e., the Timpani and drums are too much for them), but at lower volumes they are smooth as butter.  Putting Grado and Ultrasone in the same paragraph will be enough to incite a rebellion at Head-fi.org!!!  Forgive my effrontery, my brothers and sisters!!!

As a happy ED12 owner, I look forward to your impressions. What amps are you planning on pairing them with?
post #255 of 311
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As a happy ED12 owner, I look forward to your impressions. What amps are you planning on pairing them with?

I have several: Headroom desktop amp (somewhat dark signature, could be good), burson soloist, Grace 902 (could be too bright), Ray Samuels Darkstar (could be too powerful and possibly cause hiss), and for portable, the ALO audio MK3 portable with the bass knob (i.e., this one could be perfect), and the Decware Taboo (since Ultrasones reportedly don't do well with tubes, this one could immediately be out of the running).  What do you guys think?  Which is potentially the best candidate for the Edition 12s?

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