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I suspect there will be quite a few people buying both the DX50 and the X5.

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Both seem like they will directly compete. Although I'm not one of those people who believe the price will be low... my guess would be something around $450. I like the option of physical buttons, but does anyone think the buttons are just too big?...


From the pics we've seen they're chunky looking but you have to keep in mind it's better to have slightly big buttons. You have any idea how much of a pain in the arse it is trying to skip forward on a track of maybe pause your music when the buttons are small and the DAP is stuck in your pocket? I'm guessing they went with the chunky over sized buttons which provides the user a better tactile feel for such an occasion.

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From the pics we've seen they're chunky looking but you have to keep in mind it's better to have slightly big buttons. You have any idea how much of a pain in the arse it is trying to skip forward on a track of maybe pause your music when the buttons are small and the DAP is stuck in your pocket? I'm guessing they went with the chunky over sized buttons which provides the user a better tactile feel for such an occasion.

Yea, I can see that. I don't mind the larger buttons, I guess I'm a sucker for nice aesthetics, looks a bit tacky to me. But, convenience is much more important.
post #814 of 3609

I can't help to wonder how much impact product naming has on price expectation and perceived value...

By its name only DX50 suggests a "half" DX100 - SQ and price wise. If it appears to be more than half good, will head-fiers perceive it as a bargain?

 

AK120 suggests (and apparently sounds like) a 20% improvement over the AK100, however price is +100%. Could it be a reason for the bashing?

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I can't help to wonder how much impact product naming has on price expectation and perceived value...

By its name only DX50 suggests a "half" DX100 - SQ and price wise. If it appears to be more than half good, will head-fiers perceive it as a bargain?

 

AK120 suggests (and apparently sounds like) a 20% improvement over the AK100, however price is +100%. Could it be a reason for the bashing?

On the AK120 I don't think that the bashing as you state it, is because of the sound improvement but because many here know the cost of parts and R&D does not warrant in any way a doubling of the price. I know how much the dacs cost and basic material cost and then there is the software and R&D for everything. There is just no way the 120 is worth 1300 on a cost basis. But if people are willing to pay for it, iRiver is very willing to take the money. 

 

I don't think the DX50 is going to be half the SQ of the DX100. The DX50 is what they call the dap, not how they grade the SQ. 

post #816 of 3609

If we have smaller DX100 and still sound as darn as good like DX100 but mostly with iem/ciems, despite the physical looking I can consider this one too. For the moment I am saving up for ciem and waiting for X5 and DX50. I am a little bit more on X5 but we all know iBasso did change the rule of the game once with their DX100. They know how to do it, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't do it with DX50 again, especially when paired with iem/ciems.

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I suspect there will be quite a few people buying both the DX50 and the X5.

 

+1.... I might be one of them

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Originally Posted by DeepGroove View Post

I can't help to wonder how much impact product naming has on price expectation and perceived value...

By its name only DX50 suggests a "half" DX100 - SQ and price wise. If it appears to be more than half good, will head-fiers perceive it as a bargain?

 

AK120 suggests (and apparently sounds like) a 20% improvement over the AK100, however price is +100%. Could it be a reason for the bashing?

 

This logic simply doesn't work in the audio industry, point blank. As you go up in the tier, prices start to more than double and that doesn't necessarily mean the sound quality is double, triple, quadruple, etc. Diminishing returns my friend...

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This logic simply doesn't work in the audio industry, point blank. As you go up in the tier, prices start to more than double and that doesn't necessarily mean the sound quality is double, triple, quadruple, etc. Diminishing returns my friend...

I think this goes for just about anything. I remember hearing that to increase the quality of red wine by 10%, it will cost 100% extra to produce it. I think this applies to some degree in any product category. However, it does seem to be a radical step up in price from the AK100 to the AK120 assuming that the AK120 is an improved AK100. This last point may be wrong and could be the reason for the jump in price. (Sorry for being off topic.)

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I think this goes for just about anything. I remember hearing that to increase the quality of red wine by 10%, it will cost 100% extra to produce it. I think this applies to some degree in any product category. However, it does seem to be a radical step up in price from the AK100 to the AK120 assuming that the AK120 is an improved AK100. This last point may be wrong and could be the reason for the jump in price. (Sorry for being off topic.)

 

Indeed, you can apply it to many markets. From the reviews, it seems the AK120 is quite a bit better than the AK100. Many hold it on the same level as the DX100/HM901. The price is disgusting, but beyond that, the product seems very good. Anyway, offtopic- I apologize. 

post #821 of 3609

Its been so long we know the spec. When are they planning to announce the date & price.... Fall 2013?

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Indeed, you can apply it to many markets. From the reviews, it seems the AK120 is quite a bit better than the AK100. Many hold it on the same level as the DX100/HM901. The price is disgusting, but beyond that, the product seems very good. Anyway, offtopic- I apologize. 

I find it slightly humorous that the $1300 AK120 is such a massive improvement over the AK100, that it's now on par with the $800 DX100 biggrin.gif

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I find it slightly humorous that the $1300 AK120 is such a massive improvement over the AK100, that it's now on par with the $800 DX100 biggrin.gif

 

It is funny, but like I said price doesn't mean much, there can be products that are cheaper that outperform or equal more expensive ones. rolleyes.gif

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I find it slightly humorous that the $1300 AK120 is such a massive improvement over the AK100, that it's now on par with the $800 DX100 biggrin.gif

That I can agree with!  basshead.gif

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I find it slightly humorous that the $1300 AK120 is such a massive improvement over the AK100, that it's now on par with the $800 DX100 biggrin.gif
On par or close to and one third of the size which is it s main advantage.
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