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post #961 of 3683

Thanks for the update.

I was just about to place my order for the HM5 pads, but then it said that shipping time is 10-30 days.

That is ridiculous in my opinion, so do you think the pleather version of the beyer pads would be just as good?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-EDT770S-Headphone-Pads-Black/dp/B008XHU9ZS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1400988396&sr=8-3&keywords=beyerdynamic+pads

post #962 of 3683

Just got mine. (Less than a week from Japan, free shipping, yay Japanese efficiency. Why does stuff from Hong Kong take three times as long?) Listening to random stuff at 30+db up at 30hz and am happy. (Oh yeah, the JVCs are VERY efficient headphones, so with an amp you can dial the pregain down -30db to prevent clipping and still have plenty of headroom).

 

 

 

The stock pads are pure garbage, I can't believe they shipped them with those things. Luckily, my Alpha pads fit right on and wow... the fit is unreal. It's like they were made specifically for these cans. The Alpha didn't fit on my 1540s because the cups don't rotate, but the JVC cups do rotate in all directions and they clamp tight so it's perfect. Ironically, while the fit and sealing feels incredible, isolation/sound leakage is actually a bit worse than my 1540s with their stock pads. Strange, but it is what it is. I was hoping they would isolate like a tomb, but that's not the case.

 

 

 

SQ of mids/highs is indeed a bit veiled and dark, but still very good. They are perfectly suitable for use as an all-around set of cans for somebody whose preferences run dark. My 1540s are still solidly superior in tone (for most genres), transparency, and detail, and they should be for twice the cost.

 

Rap: HBB told y'all, these are the world's best rap headphones. Holy Jesus. That 26hz drop on "Itchin" by Future, Decaf remix. That 35 and 27 drop on Clyde Carson "Doin' That". ROFL. What the hell was JVC thinking marketing these headphones to SQ snobs? The bass isn't going to scare anybody used to 150db+ car audio systems, but it's probably enough for cans.

 

EDM: Prefer the 1540 for most EDM, it has enough bass and its control is tighter.

 

Metal/Death Metal: JVC does very well here actually, its darkness is less of a problem for me than with other genres. (I don't want to feel bright when some guy with a pentagram on his forehead is ranting about Satan.) It conveys the visceral impact of the kick drums very well. But you can't jack the bass too high or its boominess smears out the music.

 

So in summary there is a place for both these cans on my desk, as I thought.


Edited by Stereolab42 - 5/24/14 at 10:25pm
post #963 of 3683
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereolab42 View Post
 

Just got mine. (Less than a week from Japan, free shipping, yay Japanese efficiency. Why does stuff from Hong Kong take three times as long?) Listening to random stuff at 30+db up at 30hz and am happy. (Oh yeah, the JVCs are VERY efficient headphones, so with an amp you can dial the pregain down -30db to prevent clipping and still have plenty of headroom).

 

 

 

The stock pads are pure garbage, I can't believe they shipped them with those things. Luckily, my Alpha pads fit right on and wow... the fit is unreal. It's like they were made specifically for these cans. The Alpha didn't fit on my 1540s because the cups don't rotate, but the JVC cups do rotate in all directions and they clamp tight so it's perfect. Ironically, while the fit and sealing feels incredible, isolation/sound leakage is actually a bit worse than my 1540s with their stock pads. Strange, but it is what it is. I was hoping they would isolate like a tomb, but that's not the case.

 

 

 

SQ of mids/highs is indeed a bit veiled and dark, but still very good. They are perfectly suitable for use as an all-around set of cans for somebody whose preferences run dark. My 1540s are still solidly superior in tone (for most genres), transparency, and detail, and they should be for twice the cost.

 

Rap: HBB told y'all, these are the world's best rap headphones. Holy Jesus. That 26hz drop on "Itchin" by Future, Decaf remix. That 35 and 27 drop on Clyde Carson "Doin' That". ROFL. What the hell was JVC thinking marketing these headphones to SQ snobs? The bass isn't going to scare anybody used to 150db+ car audio systems, but it's probably enough for cans.

 

EDM: Prefer the 1540 for most EDM, it has enough bass and its control is tighter.

 

Metal/Death Metal: JVC does very well here actually, its darkness is less of a problem for me than with other genres. (I don't want to feel bright when some guy with a pentagram on his forehead is ranting about Satan.) It conveys the visceral impact of the kick drums very well. But you can't jack the bass too high or its boominess smears out the music.

 

So in summary there is a place for both these cans on my desk, as I thought.

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome to the Family brother!

You got your stuff ready and looking at these through the reality lens.

1 and only cans?? No

Head stomping "Live" type stuff? Hell yeah

That red part.....has always blown my mind.

I'd like to put my e12 pushed cans with changed pads and put them on Dre's head...then 50 cents head...then....

 

You get the pic!!

 

Bravo!!! My sole purpose for existence on Head-fi is to find the hardest hitting well defined low end cans.

By my universal comparative system you and I own the kings:D

post #964 of 3683

Interesting, for me the alpha pads seem slightly too big and too loose of a fit.

 

Thanks for the review!

post #965 of 3683
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Originally Posted by intlsubband View Post
 

Interesting, for me the alpha pads seem slightly too big and too loose of a fit.

 

Thanks for the review!

 

I have big ears, apparently. Doesn't look like it in the mirror, but earpads that fit everyone else are too small for me and those too big for everyone else are just fine for me!

 

OK, I think I have finally heard too much bass. "On My Level" at +35db. I bow down.

 


Edited by Stereolab42 - 5/25/14 at 12:44am
post #966 of 3683
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Originally Posted by Stereolab42 View Post
 

 

I have big ears, apparently. Doesn't look like it in the mirror, but earpads that fit everyone else are too small for me and those too big for everyone else are just fine for me!

 

OK, I think I have finally heard too much bass. "On My Level" at +35db. I bow down.

 

 

Sorry, I meant the fit on the JVC cups themselves. I do enjoy the alpha pads on my Mad Dog 3.2 though. I might give them another try on the JVC.

post #967 of 3683

I'm just listening to Uriah Heep's album Look At Yourself. iPod > Vamp Verza with bass boost on > JVC. Sounds just incredible. A real deep, engaging sound.

 

post #968 of 3683
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereolab42 View Post
 

 

I have big ears, apparently. Doesn't look like it in the mirror, but earpads that fit everyone else are too small for me and those too big for everyone else are just fine for me!

 

OK, I think I have finally heard too much bass. "On My Level" at +35db. I bow down.

 

 

 

Oh yeah.....that's the stuff right there

@PocketSmiley........

 

A fellow brother from another mother. :L3000:

post #969 of 3683

This song sounds so, so good with these JVCs.

It is almost too much!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX8qH93xvo0

post #970 of 3683

Did you pull the trigger on any pads?

 

These do have a Powerful delivery. Some stuff just overwhelms.

post #971 of 3683

Yeah, I decided to get the Beyer velor pads. I don't like how hot my ears are getting with the pleather, and I remember someone saying that velor is better for that. They won't arrive until Thursday though.

post #972 of 3683

Cool. Whatever gets that driver cage off your ears is worth it.

post #973 of 3683

So my fix on the issue with the headband on the SZ2k broke again, so i'll take pictures tomorrow morning if i have the time, or in the evening to show you guys where the issue is and how to fix it (or ruin it more lol...). I'll try to fix it the best i can this time (more light might help), but i doubt that it will look the same again, might even mod the headphone so it can have the Y cable instead of just to one side. 

post #974 of 3683

Hey guys,

 

I just posted in the Herus thread regarding a new interconnect I just got today (Stager Silver Solids):  http://www.head-fi.org/t/683778/350cad-herus-asynchronous-usb-audio-2-0-24bit-352-8ks-s-dxd-and-dsd64-128-2-4vrms-headphone-dac/210#post_10584037

 

But as to how it relates to the JVCs, well, I am still using the factory pads (Beyer velors should arrive tomorrow or Thursday), but the change in interconnect between the DAC and amp has instantly transformed the JVC to be rather pleasant to listen to and has removed the 'veil'.

Before to be honest, even though I like the sub-bass, everything else (including mid and upper bass) is too warm, treble too distorted and noisy, which means I can't listen to these phones longer than 45 minutes or so at a time.

 

I am still learning/trying to EQ this phone so that it works for me (removing the fatigue), and I hope the velors will also help. I was already thinking to sell this phone, but with the significant improvement of the interconnect, I am pretty sure I will keep this headphone.

I may even be able to tweak it enough so that it is my main phone I use while just jamming while working until I can afford the Fostex TH-900. I am also curious about the HE-400, but not sure if I want to take another blind leap on a mid-fi phone again like I did with these JVCs, especially since there are so many mixed feelings regarding their bass.

 

The pressure from the clamping of the phones though is also part of the reason why I can't listen to these very long though. Is something that gets better after some use, or something you get used to, or something that will be improved a little by the velors?

 

I posted a few pics in the other thread linked above, and I HIGHLY recommend these interconnects as they are so inexpensive for being solid silver and have made a significant (not subtle) difference/improvement in everything.

post #975 of 3683
Quote:
Originally Posted by nipponbiki View Post
 

Hey guys,

 

I just posted in the Herus thread regarding a new interconnect I just got today (Stager Silver Solids):  http://www.head-fi.org/t/683778/350cad-herus-asynchronous-usb-audio-2-0-24bit-352-8ks-s-dxd-and-dsd64-128-2-4vrms-headphone-dac/210#post_10584037

 

But as to how it relates to the JVCs, well, I am still using the factory pads (Beyer velors should arrive tomorrow or Thursday), but the change in interconnect between the DAC and amp has instantly transformed the JVC to be rather pleasant to listen to and has removed the 'veil'.

Before to be honest, even though I like the sub-bass, everything else (including mid and upper bass) is too warm, treble too distorted and noisy, which means I can't listen to these phones longer than 45 minutes or so at a time.

 

I am still learning/trying to EQ this phone so that it works for me (removing the fatigue), and I hope the velors will also help. I was already thinking to sell this phone, but with the significant improvement of the interconnect, I am pretty sure I will keep this headphone.

I may even be able to tweak it enough so that it is my main phone I use while just jamming while working until I can afford the Fostex TH-900. I am also curious about the HE-400, but not sure if I want to take another blind leap on a mid-fi phone again like I did with these JVCs, especially since there are so many mixed feelings regarding their bass.

 

The pressure from the clamping of the phones though is also part of the reason why I can't listen to these very long though. Is something that gets better after some use, or something you get used to, or something that will be improved a little by the velors?

 

I posted a few pics in the other thread linked above, and I HIGHLY recommend these interconnects as they are so inexpensive for being solid silver and have made a significant (not subtle) difference/improvement in everything.

 

Thanks for this - so is it a USB DAC that you recommend?

 

The setup definitely makes a difference, though the JVCs are definitely sensitive enough to run direct from my ipod. With the ipod (and with the Vamp Verza), I hear a real graininess in the highs, which become much more fluid with my home setup. On my home setup the highs are definitely more fluid and natural. My full home setup atm is ipod or laptop -> Onkyo transport (takes out the digital signal from the ipod or computer) -> high quality optic cable -> Tubemagic D1 DAC -> Audioquest Sydney interconnect RCA -> Corda Concerto amp -> JVC. My next purchase might be a better full-sized DAC.

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