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post #2266 of 3524
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Originally Posted by diamondears View Post

Is this (JVC SZ1000/2000) the only 2-way driver HP in the market? Any other else you guys know?

The new enigmacoustics Dharma D1000 uses a dual dynamic / electrostat hybrid driver design. The Final Audio Design Pandora Hope IV and VI both use a dual driver design. Those are being phased out and replaced by a single driver design. I think the old AKG K280's are dual dynamic and electrostat as well.

 

Cheers.

post #2267 of 3524

New headfier here. I’ve lurked these forums for years, but I’ve never felt the need to become a member until recently.

 

I have been chasing the bass dragon for quite a while now… But the dragon is not so easily caught.

I’ve owned and sold quite a few bass oriented headphones over the past few years and never really found any that truly put out that “rumble” if you know what I mean.

I came across this thread and figured I would give the SZ2K’s a try since the price was pretty decent & most of you seem to love them.

 

I ordered them new from Japan on the 13th and amazingly they showed up yesterday on the 18th.

 

Here are my impressions after about 20+ hours of use:

 

I don’t know if it’s because I’m powering them with the cayin c5 or if it’s just because I’m used to darker sounding headphones… But I’m pleasantly surprised to say that the veil these headphones have is no where near as bad as I was expecting it to be. I have the c5 set on high gain with the bass boost on (for reference).

 

The bass is excellent! I think I can say my search may be over. I do need more time to tell though… but so far the bass sounds very promising considering I have not changed pads or even used an equalizer.

 

As far as distortion goes, man these headphones are freaks! These things do not distort hardly at all; and when they do the sound is so loud I couldn't imagine actually having them on my head for more than 20 seconds lol… and mind you these are brand new & hardly broken in!

 

 

HBB, You weren't kidding about the stock pads as they are complete garbage. The tops of my ears were hurting within 30 minutes of wearing them. I shoved some paper towel up under them just so I could make them wearable.

 

So first impressions are mostly positive… but I do need more time to make up my mind. The highs are definitely veiled but I think with an equalizer I can make them sound how I want.

 

I’m going to try out a few different pads including the x55’s that HBB loves. I also just ordered the velour EDT 770 VB pads from beyerdynamic. I’m going to buy the audioforge equalizer app and see what I can dig out with these cans as well.

 

Updates to come…

post #2268 of 3524
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Originally Posted by Aliceinbassland View Post
 

New headfier here. I’ve lurked these forums for years, but I’ve never felt the need to become a member until recently.

 

I have been chasing the bass dragon for quite a while now… But the dragon is not so easily caught.

I’ve owned and sold quite a few bass oriented headphones over the past few years and never really found any that truly put out that “rumble” if you know what I mean.

I came across this thread and figured I would give the SZ2K’s a try since the price was pretty decent & most of you seem to love them.

 

I ordered them new from Japan on the 13th and amazingly they showed up yesterday on the 18th.

 

Here are my impressions after about 20+ hours of use:

 

I don’t know if it’s because I’m powering them with the cayin c5 or if it’s just because I’m used to darker sounding headphones… But I’m pleasantly surprised to say that the veil these headphones have is no where near as bad as I was expecting it to be. I have the c5 set on high gain with the bass boost on (for reference).

 

The bass is excellent! I think I can say my search may be over. I do need more time to tell though… but so far the bass sounds very promising considering I have not changed pads or even used an equalizer.

 

As far as distortion goes, man these headphones are freaks! These things do not distort hardly at all; and when they do the sound is so loud I couldn't imagine actually having them on my head for more than 20 seconds lol… and mind you these are brand new & hardly broken in!

 

 

HBB, You weren't kidding about the stock pads as they are complete garbage. The tops of my ears were hurting within 30 minutes of wearing them. I shoved some paper towel up under them just so I could make them wearable.

 

So first impressions are mostly positive… but I do need more time to make up my mind. The highs are definitely veiled but I think with an equalizer I can make them sound how I want.

 

I’m going to try out a few different pads including the x55’s that HBB loves. I also just ordered the velour EDT 770 VB pads from beyerdynamic. I’m going to buy the audioforge equalizer app and see what I can dig out with these cans as well.

 

Updates to come…


 Welcome to the fam:beerchug:

 

 Raise 30 and 60Hz with audioforge and play around with it. Personally i do not touch the mids and highs via eq just the sub-bass.

The pads do 2 things...1 take the ******* cage off your ears and 2 change the sound a bit. The 55x are the ones if you are chasing the dragon. The Beyer will be more comfy and the sound more balanced relative to the stock **** pads.

post #2269 of 3524
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 


 Welcome to the fam:beerchug:

 

 Raise 30 and 60Hz with audioforge and play around with it. Personally i do not touch the mids and highs via eq just the sub-bass.

The pads do 2 things...1 take the ******* cage off your ears and 2 change the sound a bit. The 55x are the ones if you are chasing the dragon. The Beyer will be more comfy and the sound more balanced relative to the stock **** pads.

Thanks for the welcome!

 

Well the x55 headphones were in my P.O. box this morning, I ordered them the same day I purchased the SZ2K's. I’m going to harvest the pads here in a few minutes… but I went ahead and plugged them in to see how they sound.

 

You know how most people here on headfi exaggerate bad sounding headphones by saying they sound like listening to music through a wall?

 

Well the x55 literally actually sound like your listening through a wall lol. They are TERRIBLE with all capitals. I guess I cant complain since I only paid $20 for the them.

 

I'll let you know how the SZ2K's + x55 pads W/ EQ sound in a little while.


Edited by Aliceinbassland - 7/19/15 at 7:49am
post #2270 of 3524
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Originally Posted by Aliceinbassland View Post
 

Thanks for the welcome!

 

Well the x55 headphones were in my P.O. box this morning, I ordered them the same day I purchased the SZ2K's. I’m going to harvest the pads here in a few minutes… but I went ahead and plugged them in to see how they sound.

 

You know how most people here on headfi exaggerate bad sounding headphones by saying they sound like listening to music through a wall?

 

Well the x55 literally actually sound like your listening through a wall lol. They are TERRIBLE with all capitals. I guess I cant complain since I only paid $20 for the them.

 

I'll let you know how the SZ2K's + x55 pads W/ EQ sound in a little while.

Yes, the 55x are paper cup sounding pad holders for the sz2k.

 

I'm in Japan and gonna crash so I'll check in on your Dragon catching later:D

post #2271 of 3524
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Originally Posted by Aliceinbassland View Post

 

So first impressions are mostly positive… but I do need more time to make up my mind. The highs are definitely veiled but I think with an equalizer I can make them sound how I want.

 

They can definitely sound better with eq and respond very well to it in my experience. I'd look at goldenear.net's FR graph for a good starting point. 

 

Personally, for treble, based on goldenear's FR measurement and experimenting by ear I went with adding to 6 kHz in tight curve, with an overall pre-gain reduction to avoid clipping. Works very well. I went further and also tweaked 1.8 kHz, dropped 166 Hz as well as 400 Hz significantly, as it also has a mid-bass hump. Much better clarity with these settings. Anyway, the main point is that the FR graph is a good indication. Oh and of course I added gain to the sub-bass with a low-shelf filter for everything 50 Hz and down.

post #2272 of 3524
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

Yes, the 55x are paper cup sounding pad holders for the sz2k.

 

I'm in Japan and gonna crash so I'll check in on your Dragon catching later:D

I installed the x55 pads and messed with the Audioforge equalizer app.

 

And then god said… Let there be bass. Seriously the bass hits are biblical now!

 

The x55 pads made a HUGE difference in how the bass hits. This combined with the Equalizer app from Audioforge Labs is amazing. Seriously the bass coming from these SZ2K’s is the best hitting I’ve heard out of a set of cans! On the down side for the x55 pads, the soundstage doesn’t sound as good as it did & the veil only slightly lifted. But I have a feeling that the velour 770 pads will help clear it up a bit. I say this because my old DT 990’s had much more clarity & better sound stage with velour pads as compared to pleather style pads.

 

 

As far as the bass dragon goes… I have caught the dragon, the dragon is good. :atsmile:

 

Now I just got to wait for the 770 pads to get here. I’ll post some pics when I get my post count up. Until then I’m going to enjoy this bass.


Edited by Aliceinbassland - 11/10/15 at 1:43am
post #2273 of 3524
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Originally Posted by DreamKing View Post
 

 

They can definitely sound better with eq and respond very well to it in my experience. I'd look at goldenear.net's FR graph for a good starting point. 

 

Personally, for treble, based on goldenear's FR measurement and experimenting by ear I went with adding to 6 kHz in tight curve, with an overall pre-gain reduction to avoid clipping. Works very well. I went further and also tweaked 1.8 kHz, dropped 166 Hz as well as 400 Hz significantly, as it also has a mid-bass hump. Much better clarity with these settings. Anyway, the main point is that the FR graph is a good indication. Oh and of course I added gain to the sub-bass with a low-shelf filter for everything 50 Hz and down.

Hey thanks for the tips! The goldenear site is a treasure trove of info, and it will help me big time!

 

This audioforge app has really opened up a lot of doors… to say the least I should have downloaded this app a long time ago. I got a feeling I’m going to be spending a lot of time on this app now, and I type that with a smile on my face.

post #2274 of 3524

Finally got my E12 back from warranty after a mere 6 weeks, finally back to getting some power into my 1K's :) Just need to charge the little sucker.

post #2275 of 3524

I’ve been messing with the SZ2K’s for a while now and I cant take them off lol. The sound from these headphones is very immersive! They are not as genre specific as I was expecting them to be. For example Depeche Modes “Black Celebration” album sounds really cool with these cans.

 

Admittedly most rock doesn’t sound that great with these, but using the equalizer helps out with clearing up the highs by a big margin. However house music sounds good with the SZ2K’s even un eq’ed.

 

For full on bass impact Puscifer’s Indigo Children JLE mIX hits really nice with these cans.

 

Here is a pic of the SZ2k’s in action while messing with the equalizer app & x55 pads installed. Notice the original pads with rolled up paper towel shoved into them lol…  unfortunately my original itouch is too old to use the EQ app; but my 4S & ipad downloaded the app with no issues.

 

post #2276 of 3524
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Originally Posted by Aliceinbassland View Post Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
 

I’ve been messing with the SZ2K’s for a while now and I cant take them off lol. The sound from these headphones is very immersive! They are not as genre specific as I was expecting them to be. For example Depeche Modes “Black Celebration” album sounds really cool with these cans.

 

Admittedly most rock doesn’t sound that great with these, but using the equalizer helps out with clearing up the highs by a big margin. However house music sounds good with the SZ2K’s even un eq’ed.

 

For full on bass impact Puscifer’s Indigo Children JLE mIX hits really nice with these cans.

 

Here is a pic of the SZ2k’s in action while messing with the equalizer app & x55 pads installed. Notice the original pads with rolled up paper towel shoved into them lol…  unfortunately my original itouch is too old to use the EQ app; but my 4S & ipad downloaded the app with no issues.

 

 

 

 

 Sz2k +C5 +55x pads  ( like the big bass ski jump eq slope:D)

 

In a hobby that is filled with spec claims  the human ear cannot catch and folks using words they don't understand it's nice to have some real stuff. That is the best bass config on this site and in this hobby. Nobody has a harder hitting set unless they got what you got.

That is good for my O.C.D.:p

 

I am constantly checking ( just heard the Audioquest Nighthawk for the 2nd time) and it may be a top 5 bass bomber but it's not the king.

 

You have the King.

Long live the king.

post #2277 of 3524
I'm finally getting to hear what 1K's are capable of after a few changes and having listening to them daily for a fee weeks. I'm loving these cans more and more each day!

So here's what I changed:
A) I got a better source. Stopped using my phone (Galaxy Note 2) and picked up a FiiO X1.

B) I stopped wearing my glasses and took out my plugs (ear gauges). While they weren't causing noticeable leakage to other people, both were keeping the pads from forming a tight seal. To hear and experience all the bass, these cans need a super tight seal.

C) Speaking of pads, I finally got new Brainwavz angled memory foam pads. My ears can now not be always touching the inner speaker and that's great. Plus the bass is just now more intense.

Next up is an amp. I'm currently looking at a FiiO E17. Hopefully that'll push the bass up without me having to crank the volume to obscene levels.

post #2278 of 3524
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Originally Posted by digispa View Post

I'm finally getting to hear what 1K's are capable of after a few changes and having listening to them daily for a fee weeks. I'm loving these cans more and more each day!

So here's what I changed:
A) I got a better source. Stopped using my phone (Galaxy Note 2) and picked up a FiiO X1.

B) I stopped wearing my glasses and took out my plugs (ear gauges). While they weren't causing noticeable leakage to other people, both were keeping the pads from forming a tight seal. To hear and experience all the bass, these cans need a super tight seal.

C) Speaking of pads, I finally got new Brainwavz angled memory foam pads. My ears can now not be always touching the inner speaker and that's great. Plus the bass is just now more intense.

Next up is an amp. I'm currently looking at a FiiO E17. Hopefully that'll push the bass up without me having to crank the volume to obscene levels.

 

 

 

Beast mode!

post #2279 of 3524
hey, im not new here but i am a new member of this forum. firstly, i cant speak english very well so sorry for grammar mistakes. And yeah i have a question i'll probably buy fiio x3 2nd gen mp3 player and i'll buy a headphones too but i cant decide between jvc ha-sz2000 vs v-moda m-100. i listen deep and bassy electronic musics sometimes dubstep btw. what do you guys think? and when i am buy this mp3 player am i need other portable amp. ? thanks! ^^ ( btw you can propose me other headphones, i select them bcz they are 250$ and they are best hp's what i am lookin for)
Edited by Hypthus - 7/23/15 at 6:07pm
post #2280 of 3524
I'm worried about the dip in sub-bass. I wish the sub-bass goes bit higher than the mid-bass on FR graphs (@goldenears). So if I'm gonna buy this I have to have a sub-bass booster.

So, any of you tried this JVC with the iFi micro iDSD and FiiO E12 with the bass boosts turned on? How is it?
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