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post #1051 of 1655
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Originally Posted by bizkid View Post

 Pad change is unnecessary, stock pads are great, this is just a typical head-fi thing

That is an ironic statement;)

 

An opinion uttered as fact...which is itself typical Head-Fi (the bad side anyway)

 

When I bought these March 5th there were 2 other owners on Head-fi.

Nobody considered it a basshead can. It does much more of course but I'm a basshead.

These are without peer for my genre'.

That requires a pad change to get the driver cage off my ear and transfer the hit through the pads to 1/4 of the surface area of my head as opposed to the cage on ear which is roughly 1/6 of the area.

Plus it helps the sound sig IMO.

I'm happy that 4 months later there is a community and we all have different tastes but use the same cans.

That is a testament to these headphones versatility.

 

I would strongly rec a pad change for any new user but respect your differing opinion and share your affinity for these cans:)

post #1052 of 1655

Thanks for confirming re-Europe. And people shouldn't get overly excited because of differing opinions regarding pads... we know by now that we all experience sound in different ways, both objectively (different shaped heads and ears work differently with different pads) and subjectively (our interpretation of the incoming sound).

 

Whichever pads you're using, give this one a go with the JVCs for the "club feel":

 

 

post #1053 of 1655
The stock pads are just extremly comfortable for me and have a feel of high quality. I would easily rank the JVC very high in my personal most comfy headphones ranking. The sound is great and if i want it tweaked i would use EQ rather than pads. Its not my philosophy and never was with different headphones either. I think people are getting the wrong idea if they think they absolutely have to exchange the pads even before buying these. Since you mentioned them, one of the other older owners of the JVC is also using stock pads.
Edited by bizkid - 6/2/14 at 6:16am
post #1054 of 1655

Cool.

Like I said.

The common thread is the cans.

The way we listen to them is unique to the person.

Free will....is awesome:D 

 

 

 

I listen to my pair at this level of bass.

Pretty sure we are using these different....but both very happy:beerchug:


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 6/2/14 at 6:24am
post #1055 of 1655
I just tried the GoneMad music player for Android and its EQ is comparable in quality to the Sony EQ. My Eq curve carries over with no problems. My recommendation over Poweramp and Neutron. Dont forget to adjust the pregain and change the EQ to high quality mode.
post #1056 of 1655

This is kinda late, but I just want to welcome the new SZ owners! Makes me so happy lol

 

@bizkid THANK YOU for the GoneMad rec. I also love the SZ stock pads for the feel and comfort--the grill touching your ear was definitely uncomfortable at first (imagine a metal robot licking your ears whispering indecent things) but I got used to that (who could resist a metal robot). It's like I'm wearing ... a stupid sexy ski suit. EDIT (got clipped): I listen super loud so the "room gain" benefits of other pads become marginal.

 

@Stereolab42 I'm happy for you, and I'm really sorry about the HA-MR77X. The last time I tested, the SZ could go +15dB beyond the 77s, and that's super louder. Thanks for the EQ recs too! EDIT: When you said that looking for that one pair that can do everything is a pipe dream, I was reminded of my first encounter with Hawaii lol because he said the same thing himself! In my defense, I grew up in poverty, so I'm used to relying on just one affordable general solution, instead of spending extra for each special need.

 

@nipponbiki Congrats on the SZ! It seems that you really love your SZ. I listen to tons of piano music, and my recent favorite is Pianeet:

 

 

At first I had ringing problems with the SZ with this particular 45-second passage in the album version of above track, but either I had tinnitus back then (lol if I did it's gone now) or because I changed my motherboard to one that uses an OPA2134 op-amp, that problem passage is crystal clear now. Back then I had suspicions that the subwoofer driver was leaking mid to high frequencies at loud volumes (escaping the Kelton chambers) which explained the ringing, but I'm glad that wasn't the case (I also tested with my other headphones and I could hear the ringing, so it was definitely not the SZ).

 

If only this level of bass reproduction were the norm, at least around this price range.


Edited by PocketSmiley - 6/8/14 at 12:54am
post #1057 of 1655
I must be lucky because i really have no problems with the drivers touching my ears. They barely do. I had the ATH-AD2000 some years ago where my ears started hurting after 5 minutes from the drivers being pressed on my ears. Compared to that the JVC is harmless.
post #1058 of 1655

I just received my pair over the weekend and also find the stock pads perfect. I am confused by all the hate for them. Is it due to large head sizes, maybe? I have a smallish head so maybe that is why I don't have a problem with them?

post #1059 of 1655
Maybe its because you haven't heard them with other pads yet.
post #1060 of 1655
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Originally Posted by pachoo5 View Post
 

I just received my pair over the weekend and also find the stock pads perfect. I am confused by all the hate for them. Is it due to large head sizes, maybe? I have a smallish head so maybe that is why I don't have a problem with them?

 

Different strokes for different folks!

Welcome to the fam!

post #1061 of 1655

While we discussed EQs and such for these headphones, I'd like to get some recommendations for amp pairings.

 

At first I thought that due to the size & weight of these, I would use them in home only, and my home amp (Corda Concerto) works very nicely with these. I have yet to find a headphone that doesn't sound great with the Concerto btw!

 

But in the last couple of weeks I started to use it on the go / in the office much more, and I actually find it quite good on the go, especially after pad change which makes these highly isolated/ isolating.

 

However, my mobile amp I think is not adequate for these. I have the Vamp Verza, which I think has a much too high impedance output to drive these. The VV's output impedance is a very high 10 ohms, while the JVC's impedance is a very low 16 ohms. When plugged in to the VV, the JVCs sound a bit harsh, and seem to be much more fatiguing. I recently started to plug the JVC directly to my ipod (classic, latest version), and I think it actually sounds better straight out of the ipod than it was with the Vamp Verza.

 

Directly out of the ipod, with the ipod's EQ set on "rock" (classic V-shaped curve), the sound is pretty fantastic, and not really veiled at all. I feel that without the EQ setting on the ipod it sounds much more distant and veiled. In fact, the audible difference between the different EQ settings is really substantial with this headphone - other headphones seem to not change quite so dramatically between different EQ settings.

 

So, in short, can anyone recommend a good mobile amp or dac/amp that will work great with the JVCs? (preferrably ones that are compatible with apple devices). I had my eyes on the M8 for a while now, but it's a bit on the pricey side. Given the very low impedance of the headphones, I'm also wondering if amps made for IEMs would be the way to go.

post #1062 of 1655
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Originally Posted by intlsubband View Post
 

While we discussed EQs and such for these headphones, I'd like to get some recommendations for amp pairings.

 

At first I thought that due to the size & weight of these, I would use them in home only, and my home amp (Corda Concerto) works very nicely with these. I have yet to find a headphone that doesn't sound great with the Concerto btw!

 

But in the last couple of weeks I started to use it on the go / in the office much more, and I actually find it quite good on the go, especially after pad change which makes these highly isolated/ isolating.

 

However, my mobile amp I think is not adequate for these. I have the Vamp Verza, which I think has a much too high impedance output to drive these. The VV's output impedance is a very high 10 ohms, while the JVC's impedance is a very low 16 ohms. When plugged in to the VV, the JVCs sound a bit harsh, and seem to be much more fatiguing. I recently started to plug the JVC directly to my ipod (classic, latest version), and I think it actually sounds better straight out of the ipod than it was with the Vamp Verza.

 

Directly out of the ipod, with the ipod's EQ set on "rock" (classic V-shaped curve), the sound is pretty fantastic, and not really veiled at all. I feel that without the EQ setting on the ipod it sounds much more distant and veiled. In fact, the audible difference between the different EQ settings is really substantial with this headphone - other headphones seem to not change quite so dramatically between different EQ settings.

 

So, in short, can anyone recommend a good mobile amp or dac/amp that will work great with the JVCs? (preferrably ones that are compatible with apple devices). I had my eyes on the M8 for a while now, but it's a bit on the pricey side. Given the very low impedance of the headphones, I'm also wondering if amps made for IEMs would be the way to go.

 

 

 

 

These are strictly mobile for me.

 

I use an e12 which has plenty of power and very compact/portable (top pic)

post #1063 of 1655

Thanks for the photos!

 

I've been looking at the FiiO products but their variety confused me a bit. Which is considered their best amp?

post #1064 of 1655
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Originally Posted by intlsubband View Post
 

Thanks for the photos!

 

I've been looking at the FiiO products but their variety confused me a bit. Which is considered their best amp?

 

Not sure.

The e12 is more powerful than most of their portables I think?

Maybe someone else can pipe in with a comment. the e12 has a great low bass boost switch and plenty of power and a low physical profile. Works great with sz but compared to others I'm not sure.

post #1065 of 1655
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

 

Not sure.

The e12 is more powerful than most of their portables I think?

Maybe someone else can pipe in with a comment. the e12 has a great low bass boost switch and plenty of power and a low physical profile. Works great with sz but compared to others I'm not sure.

 

Yea, I just looked at the specs, the E12 seems quite powerful - and it's a fraction of the price of the VV or the M8. I didn't realise it goes for 120$, I thought it would be at least double that. At that price I might just buy to try... It is about 5-6 times more powerful than the VV, at a quarter of the price! of course it's only an AMP so I'll need to either get a portable DAC to go with it, or alternatively just a dock cable for the ipod and use the ipod's DAC.

 

If this turns out to be very pleasing, I might get rid of the VV altogether...

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