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post #1006 of 3561
These have no problem with phase. With some EQ they are very detailed and punchy/fast sounding. For details they even rival the Focal Spirit Pro. Without any EQ they are unlistenable for me, i wonder JVC engineers were thinking to achieve.

My EQ looks like this.on my Sony DAP:

Clearbass +2
0.4 khz -1
1 khz +1
2.5 khz +2
6.3 khz +2
16 khz +1

Im not sure how many dB equal to one step, i would guess around 3dB.
post #1007 of 3561
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Originally Posted by bizkid View Post

These have no problem with phase. With some EQ they are very detailed and punchy/fast sounding. For details they even rival the Focal Spirit Pro. Without any EQ they are unlistenable for me, i wonder JVC engineers were thinking to achieve.

 

 

Living in Japan and teaching English to engineers at Hitachi and Sony and semi conductor manufacturers I think this is a business culture fail as much or more than a tech one.

 

It seems mind boggling to a westerner to take 99 steps in a 100 step course and then walk away for reasons not clear beyond money and have nobody stand up and question it.

This is Japan. It's been a lost generation/a generation of no growth where folks are making less (price adjusted) than they did in 1986.

 

This was an incomplete project. They are not morons with bad hearing at JVC.

They are a Japanese company. 

 

Go grab an old XB from Sony circa 2008 and grab an XB 2014......there you go.

 

These are epic cans. Unrivaled tech. A failed attempt to many but not for me. I've held so many cans and tried them out on a universal scale. They were inches away from a homerun. The made the best basscans ever made by accident while trying to revolutionize an industry.

They failed at what they wanted to do......and most are not even sure what that was?

The guy wanted floor speaker sound. You cannot blast speakers in Japan at home because of cultural/neighbor considerations. 

The guy pretty much did do that.

 

You could write a paper about this almost awesome /accidental Einstein's

 

 

Quote:
 

The Real Sound System is a successful example of the application of speaker theory.

Miura“I have spent over 30 years as a speaker engineer, so for me, the sound that comes out of the speaker is something that I create. I had always wanted to create headphones that could reproduce the same audio quality that comes out of large floor model stereo speakers. Great audio from speakers requires consideration of the room in which they are enjoyed. In addition, it is generally not possible to turn up the volume of speakers in ordinary homes and enjoy their full potential. Headphones, on the other hand, let you listen to any music you like and as loud as you want, anywhere without concern about bothering others. For me, the headphones are the best way to listen to great audio. Our new headphones are inspired by my experience in building speakers based on the Kelton speaker design method and the Double Bass Reflex system. I believe there is still much speaker theory that can be exploited in the development of future headphones.


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 5/29/14 at 8:48am
post #1008 of 3561
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

Living in Japan and teaching English to engineers at Hitachi and Sony and semi conductor manufacturers I think this is a business culture fail as much or more than a tech one.

It seems mind boggling to a westerner to take 99 steps in a 100 step course and then walk away for reasons not clear beyond money and have nobody stand up and question it.
This is Japan. It's been a lost generation/a generation of no growth where folks are making less (price adjusted) than they did in 1986.

This was an incomplete project. They are not morons with bad hearing at JVC.
They are a Japanese company. 

Go grab an old XB from Sony circa 2008 and grab an XB 2014......there you go.

These are epic cans. Unrivaled tech. A failed attempt to many but not for me. I've held so many cans and tried them out on a universal scale. They were inches away from a homerun. The made the best basscans ever made by accident while trying to revolutionize an industry.
They failed at what they wanted to do......and most are not even sure what that was?
The guy wanted floor speaker sound. You cannot blast speakers in Japan at home because of cultural/neighbor considerations. 
The guy pretty much did do that.

You could write a paper about this almost awesome /accidental Einstein's
I almost want you to interview the engineers at JVC.
post #1009 of 3561
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

Living in Japan and teaching English to engineers at Hitachi and Sony and semi conductor manufacturers I think this is a business culture fail as much or more than a tech one.

It seems mind boggling to a westerner to take 99 steps in a 100 step course and then walk away for reasons not clear beyond money and have nobody stand up and question it.
This is Japan. It's been a lost generation/a generation of no growth where folks are making less (price adjusted) than they did in 1986.

This was an incomplete project. They are not morons with bad hearing at JVC.
They are a Japanese company. 

Go grab an old XB from Sony circa 2008 and grab an XB 2014......there you go.

These are epic cans. Unrivaled tech. A failed attempt to many but not for me. I've held so many cans and tried them out on a universal scale. They were inches away from a homerun. The made the best basscans ever made by accident while trying to revolutionize an industry.
They failed at what they wanted to do......and most are not even sure what that was?
The guy wanted floor speaker sound. You cannot blast speakers in Japan at home because of cultural/neighbor considerations. 
The guy pretty much did do that.

You could write a paper about this almost awesome /accidental Einstein's
Quote:
Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

I almost want you to interview the engineers at JVC.

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Edited by cb3723 - 5/29/14 at 8:36am
post #1010 of 3561
With my EQ curve applied they sound like big mains you have in studios to impress the clients.
post #1011 of 3561
Quote:
Originally Posted by bizkid View Post

With my EQ curve applied they sound like big mains you have in studios to impress the clients.

You're like a ninja:ph34r:....I had no idea you were buying these​.

 

The dude who said this was like being in a club with big ass monitors jamming out some live **** nailed it. 

Some of my headphones give mixed results with eq. These do harmonic yoga:D I have downloaded some new VST plugins just to play around with these when I'm not thumping my skull.

post #1012 of 3561
Yeah the JVC responds extremely well to EQ and not only in bass. You can morph it into anything you want it to be.
Edited by bizkid - 5/29/14 at 10:42am
post #1013 of 3561
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


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anyone else think this should be hawaiibadboy's profile pic?
post #1014 of 3561

Today, i can finally say that my SZ2000 are gone... spent every option i had in fixing them, and didn't worked. Might buy them again later, but right now i'm sad. Lost one of my favorite headphones til now. On the upper side, the clicking sound comes from one of the hinges being forced when one stretches the headbands, thus making the "clicking" sound and forcing a cylinder that comes from the cup (or the pivot from the cup), that eventually will break, causing that the whole cup comes de-attached. 

A sad day for me, but i'll fix them eventually, even if i have to modify the whole design...

 

Here's the only picture i could take before i realized that the piece that says China got superglued to the other piece):

 

post #1015 of 3561

Thanks for sharing that pick...I'd be pissed....and I'm going to be very careful with that part.

 

post #1016 of 3561
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukyo View Post

Today, i can finally say that my SZ2000 are gone... spent every option i had in fixing them, and didn't worked. Might buy them again later, but right now i'm sad. Lost one of my favorite headphones til now. On the upper side, the clicking sound comes from one of the hinges being forced when one stretches the headbands, thus making the "clicking" sound and forcing a cylinder that comes from the cup (or the pivot from the cup), that eventually will break, causing that the whole cup comes de-attached. 


A sad day for me, but i'll fix them eventually, even if i have to modify the whole design...

Here's the only picture i could take before i realized that the piece that says China got superglued to the other piece):



Dude!

What happened already?

Hope these cans weren't on yer head when damage was done?



Gone....but not forgotten.....

OJ biggrin.gif

But seriously - sorry to hear your canons are no more frown.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 5/29/14 at 10:56pm
post #1017 of 3561
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

I use PEQ as rec'd by pocketsmiley.

I downloaded the one streolab uses as well.

 

PEQ is very easy to use and does not interfere with Creative drivers or settings at all

I read some of the related threads.

I use J River Media Center, so that won't work for me, and I don't want to go though Windows anyway. I can reroute everything through J River as well, so Spotify, Youtube, whatever is handled in the same way as my personal collection, except that the PMC to DSD doesn't work on this reroute function.

 

However, I learned a few tidbits from related threads, and so I just turned off Peak Normalization in the DSP settings, and added a volume filter to reduce the total by -6 dB (same as lowering the pre-amp section by 6 dB in the graphic EQ). I did this in place of enabling the limiter, which is not turned off.

This has helped a lot. I initially turned that on to enhance bass volume at low volume levels, but I didn't realize how much it is affecting everything, and just making everything a bit too hot.

 

So, after that, I turned the bass switch on my external amp back to high and increased all of my cuts by 1 dB (i.e. -6 to -5 for the filter at 500 Hz).

 

Was supposed to get the velor pads today, but still hasn't arrived dammit.


Edited by nipponbiki - 5/29/14 at 11:16pm
post #1018 of 3561

Nipponbiki, JRiver supports VST plugins, so you can use any of the many VST EQ plugins however you want. I use FabFilter Pro-Q, which is expensive but absolutely the best.

post #1019 of 3561

Thanks for sharing bro!

All info helps. I think some buyers don't even sign-up at Head-fi but lurk...so for every 5 folks you think you helped there are probably 10 more:D

The pads will make you re tweak your settings for the new sound a cage getting off your ears gives.....which is better than stock by leaps and bounds IMO.

Shipping in Japan is like 1-3 days MAX. I'm gonna miss that when i leave.

post #1020 of 3561
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Originally Posted by Stereolab42 View Post
 

Nipponbiki, JRiver supports VST plugins, so you can use any of the many VST EQ plugins however you want. I use FabFilter Pro-Q, which is expensive but absolutely the best.

I know some guy..:rolleyes:...who downloaded the whole suite free after seeing your post last weekend.  VIVA LA INTERNETOS!! VIVA LA FREEDOM!!!!:deadhorse: 

 

 

 

 

PC 5.1 setting not headphone


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 5/29/14 at 11:25pm
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