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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

So what you are trying to tell me is that I need them, right? smile.gif

 

No, what he's telling you is that we need them... beerchug.gif

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I was going to get Senn Momentum but wasn't sure if it will fit my ears. You guys are such a tease with KEF M500 - so I just ordered one from RDA using the code RAZORDOG20. I hope I made the right decision. My current headphone is SURE SRH440 (I know it's not much) and just got the D1 DAC. So far I like listening to my 440 through D1, I hope M500 will be a step up from what I have been listening to.

Thank you all for the posts.dt880smile.png


Edited by DigitalMonkey - 7/24/13 at 9:08pm
post #408 of 673
I think the M500 is way better than the Momentum so I think you made the right choice.

the more I use the M500 the more I like it especially with iDevices and my new laptop.
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

So what you are trying to tell me is that I need them, right? smile.gif


Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

No, what he's telling you is that we need them... beerchug.gif

 

Let's just say I'm very much in agreement with Asr, Beagle, and others who've heaped a lot praised on these phones.  I don't think they've overstated just how special the sound is.  If you're interested in a balanced on-ear phone that's very comfortable.. you cannot go wrong with the M500.  My days are typically spent with the HD800, JH13, and/or the AS-2.. very well regarded/TOTL phones.. the M500 confidently enters that family and does not sound embarrassingly out of place.  I think that's high enough praise right there.  Is it as technically adept as those phones?  Not quite.. but it's no less (personally) enjoyable than them.  The HD800 & JH13's fidelity has spoiled me rotten.. so to have a $300 portable enter the ring.. and an on-ear, no less.. and impress me the way the M500 has is no small feat.

 

The M500's linearity sounds (to my ears) very much like how it looks at the KEF/M500 website.  It's neutral, but.. to my ears..  leans, ever-so-slightly, to the "warm side" of neutral.  I sense a very gentle, wideband midbass lift (perhaps a dB or two at the most) that engenders this warmth.. it's nothing offense and actually quite welcome as it makes for an inviting, fatigue free listening session.  I also sense a very slight peak around 4K.  Again, it's nothing obscene or fatiguing.. and, as I mentioned just a moment ago, actually quite welcome since it provides some pop in the 'presence' region of the freq curve.

 

The M500's warmth feels more "ethereal & atmospheric" (think HD600-ish) than outright lush, bassy, and/or thick.  The signature reminds me of a wonderful blend of the some of the best vintage Amperex tubes I've heard.  Tight, well textured, impactful bass.. smooth, full, rich, liquid mids.. and a clean, crisp, detailed treble that's soft at the edges.. one that perfectly compliments the midrange & bass.  Do note that I don't find the M500 all that colored.. I make the Amperex reference to characterize the 'feel' I get from the M500's warmth.  I still get an overarching sense of neutrality and balance as I listen to this phone.  It seems impressively transparent, too.. it'll adapt to whatever character your upstream gear & music recording quality takes on, but not brutally so.  Through the Vio stack, it sounds impeccably smooth, vibrant, dynamic, and spacious.  From the S3, the signature is a bit leaner and brighter.. but still very linear.  It doesn't butcher poorly recorded material.. but it shines with well recorded stuff.  The soundstage has very nice depth and ample width (especially when amped).  More importantly, instruments and sounds feel well situated and spaced in the space they're afforded.  So, even if the stage isn't as panoramic as the HD800's stage.. the listening experience remains natural since there's room for everything to breathe, stretch out, and layer.

 

In terms of genre compatibility, I find the M500 very versatile.  It doesn't possess the absolute driver speed to make speedy, rhythmic genres like metal or jungle/DnB shine.. but it won't sound muddy or confused with them either.  I listen to a very diverse array of music (everything from Indian Classical, to prog rock, instrumental/hip hop, jazz, soul, blues, breaks, liquid DnB, house, and more).. I find the M500 to perform well with it all.. so I don't think compatibility should be an issue.  If you listen to acoustic, dub, folk, jazz, downtempo, and or vocal heavy stuff.. your ears will melt into these phones.. those genres sound particularly sublime with the M500.

 

I honestly don't think there's a more well rounded on-ear in the market than the M500.  The Beyer & V-Moda on ears get a lot of attention.. but for those of us who demand more neutrality and precision, I think the M500 will be a much better choice.  That isn't to say the M500 is some pencil pushing stiff.. it's incredibly musical, engaging, and lively.. just more even tempered across the freq range.. and I for one, immensely appreciate that.  Even disregarding form factor, the M500 is extremely impressive and easily ranks as one of the best headphones I've heard for under $500.. period.  It's perhaps even better when build quality and packaging is factored in.  Simply put, it's one of the most cohesive, complete sounding portable headphones.


Edited by FlySweep - 7/24/13 at 11:41am
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Unto thee my wallet surrendereth.......biggrin.gif
post #411 of 673
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

The M500's warmth feels more "ethereal & atmospheric" (think HD600-ish) than outright lush, bassy, and/or thick.  The signature reminds me of a wonderful blend of the some of the best vintage Amperex tubes I've heard.

Would you recommend these over the HD600? I know it's not a typical comparison/choice but I don't need another portable headphone as such, just a good neutral high-end sounding headphone for sitdown listening (to be paired with the M-Stage). Others have said the HD600 is still the more refined headphone. Would you agree?

post #412 of 673

Wow... these are tiny!

Extremely comfortable on my head as of now (I'll update after I have them on for a few hours or so). They do feel "loose" though.

 

They seem well built.

Don't particularly like that one end is 3.5mm and the other is 2.5mm (or so...)

 

Sound wise, "Ok" Separation.

Sound stage is not that closed in as I thought it would be.

Reproduction I'd say OVERLY warm... Pretty sure it will be a bit "forgiving". Listened to a couple of bass heavy tracks and I was surprised at the attack and slam. Listened to Fiona Apple, the warmth was a bit too much for my ears though, her vocals was crisp but everything else seemed too much "in the background"... instruments felt like movie stand-ins... A couple of faster tracks from Less than Jake and Blink 182 sounded good, probably similar to the Mad Dogs but I don't have them with me right now.

 

I'll have more to say about this in a couple of work days.

post #413 of 673

this comment sounds more typical On-earish.... whats your setup for the above impressions bro? tongue.gif

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My usual @work setup: Cowon C2 --> Schiit Magni --> Headphones.

 

I'll try them at home later though. Setup: PC --> NuForce Icon HDP --> Lehman BCL --> Headphones.

post #415 of 673
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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post

Would you recommend these over the HD600? I know it's not a typical comparison/choice but I don't need another portable headphone as such, just a good neutral high-end sounding headphone for sitdown listening (to be paired with the M-Stage). Others have said the HD600 is still the more refined headphone. Would you agree?
There is a case for owning both as they fulfil different roles. The HD600 scales up will and is responsive to Dac and amp upgrades. The M500 is designed to be driven by portable sources. Am happy others are discovering the two share similar sound characteristics
post #416 of 673

Thanks Flysweep for getting the barbed hook sunk in deeper lol!

 

My ears get warm fairly easily. My biggest concern with the M500's is that my ears will get hot quite fast with them. This then leads to my concern that the pads can't be replaced. This is what I am struggling with at the moment.

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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post

Would you recommend these over the HD600? I know it's not a typical comparison/choice but I don't need another portable headphone as such, just a good neutral high-end sounding headphone for sitdown listening (to be paired with the M-Stage). Others have said the HD600 is still the more refined headphone. Would you agree?

 

The HD600 is more refined and more technically capable.. but if you want the "sonic feel" of the HD600 in a smaller, more portable (on ear) phone, the M500 is a great choice, IMO.  Of course, there's also Senn's line of on ears.


Edited by FlySweep - 7/24/13 at 12:05pm
post #418 of 673
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

My usual @work setup: Cowon C2 --> Schiit Magni --> Headphones.

 

I'll try them at home later though. Setup: PC --> NuForce Icon HDP --> Lehman BCL --> Headphones.

 

I missed my lehmann....and the hdp somewhat, that should be a good gauge....u ready to give us your home impressions? L3000.gif

post #419 of 673

Yes, I too am ready for some impressions... especially in comparison to the MDs.

post #420 of 673
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I think the M500 is way better than the Momentum so I think you made the right choice.
 

Care to elaborate? smile.gif

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