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I was wondering what's your take on silver/blue dragon cables from moon audio. Do they really make most headphone sound better? I would like to upgrade my hifiman he-500 cables one of these day and would like to know what you at head-fi think.
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Originally Posted by cheesegrados View Post

I was wondering what's your take on silver/blue dragon cables from moon audio. Do they really make most headphone sound better? I would like to upgrade my hifiman he-500 cables one of these day and would like to know what you at head-fi think.

Some think that they make them sound a little bit better and some think that it does nothing. Me? I love upgraded cables, not for the enhancement in sound(never been able to compare 2 cables) but because they feel SO much better. Seriously. I highly recommend an upgraded cable. Its just to your needs and a very light and durable cable(Moon Audio and Blue Dragon ones are atleast.)

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Thanks for your reply. I see I wouldn't upgrade if that's the case. Lol
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Some think that they make them sound a little bit better and some think that it does nothing. Me? I love upgraded cables, not for the enhancement in sound(never been able to compare 2 cables) but because they feel SO much better. Seriously. I highly recommend an upgraded cable. Its just to your needs and a very light and durable cable(Moon Audio and Blue Dragon ones are atleast.)

 

I agree 100%. I made a strongly worded post about this earlier, if you wish to read it, OP: 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

At the OP, I do recommend upgraded cables because of the build quality and flexibliity, and because often, default cables are just absurdly long for home use as opposed to a studio. Furthermore, it's nice to support your small businesses and artisans here and other places (though you could make your own cables too if you wanted). They don't make a difference in sound though, as far as I know.


Edited by tintin220 - 4/21/13 at 7:49pm
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Thanks Tintin, that really open up my mind. :)

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Some think that they make them sound a little bit better and some think that it does nothing. Me? I love upgraded cables, not for the enhancement in sound(never been able to compare 2 cables) but because they feel SO much better. Seriously. I highly recommend an upgraded cable. Its just to your needs and a very light and durable cable(Moon Audio and Blue Dragon ones are atleast.)

 

I agree 100%. I made a strongly worded post about this earlier, if you wish to read it, OP: 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

At the OP, I do recommend upgraded cables because of the build quality and flexibliity, and because often, default cables are just absurdly long for home use as opposed to a studio. Furthermore, it's nice to support your small businesses and artisans here and other places (though you could make your own cables too if you wanted). They don't make a difference in sound though, as far as I know.

Yep, I love upgraded cables for these reasons. Supporting hand-made things is great, and they feel great. As for the too long comment, I need all the 10ft that come with a lot of Mid-Fi - Hi-Fi headphoneswink.gif

post #7 of 11

In my experience Black Dragon gives the best result with the HE500.

post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by cheesegrados View Post

I was wondering what's your take on silver/blue dragon cables from moon audio. Do they really make most headphone sound better? I would like to upgrade my hifiman he-500 cables one of these day and would like to know what you at head-fi think.

 

Hi

 

You write "Do they really make most headphone sound better?".

 

Personally I really doubt this but I would be delighted if it were demonstrated in a blind ABX test.

 

You will read anecdotal evidence of improvements with cables. You will see people saying "more airy" or "more defined bass" etc. However what is not understood is that all of these apparent sonic alterations are very well within the scope of suggestion and auto-suggestion.

 

I have an article on suggestion and auto-suggestion and there is a link in my signature.

 

The human perception of audio is extremely flexible and in fact its great strength lies in that flexibility, however it means that it is very susceptible to suggestion or autosuggestion.

 

The only way to remove the influence of suggestion and autosuggestion is with blind ABX tests.

 

This issue applies to assessment of all Hi Fi components.

 

 

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Originally Posted by p a t r i c k View Post

 

Hi

 

You write "Do they really make most headphone sound better?".

 

Personally I really doubt this but I would be delighted if it were demonstrated in a blind ABX test.

 

You will read anecdotal evidence of improvements with cables. You will see people saying "more airy" or "more defined bass" etc. However what is not understood is that all of these apparent sonic alterations are very well within the scope of suggestion and auto-suggestion.

 

I have an article on suggestion and auto-suggestion and there is a link in my signature.

 

The human perception of audio is extremely flexible and in fact its great strength lies in that flexibility, however it means that it is very susceptible to suggestion or autosuggestion.

 

The only way to remove the influence of suggestion and autosuggestion is with blind ABX tests.

 

This issue applies to assessment of all Hi Fi components.

 

 

 

Be careful, mentioning blind tests is forbidden everywhere on these forums except the Science subforum. For whatever reason, it's a sensitive topic here, and being very anti-censorship, that's one thing I really dislike. But I guess people don't like finding out out they've grossly overpaid for their rigs. 

 

That said, if people are happy with their setups, let them be happy! I do have a problem with science evangelists in that they often try to impose their points of view on others. Intelligent debate and trying to convince someone of facts and reality is one thing, but being condescending is another. If someone wants to spend $x0,000, I may think it's pointless, but it's their money, their call, and their enjoyment. No need to go bothering others. 


Edited by tintin220 - 4/22/13 at 10:19am
post #10 of 11

There is more to cables than the question of sound quality.

The stock HiFiMan cable has durability issues.

You may need a different connector.

Personally I went with a Moon cable because they are shielded and I was having trouble with static ear zap.

On a side note I would recommend learning to solder as it is a very simple skill to pick up and drops the cost of cables by at least 50%.

post #11 of 11

X2 on the durability issues with the HE-500 original cable. For that reason and the micro phonics a replacement cable is worth considering irrespective of your beliefs on whether the cables can improve the headphones sound.

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