Hey guys, I want to first thank you for taking the time to check out my thread. I made this thread because I recently dealt with a seller to buy a pair of Sennheiser HD 800s (Headphones), Sennheiser IE 80s (IEMs aka In-Ear-Monitors) and a pair of Bose Quiet Comfort 15 (Limited Edition "Blue" Version - Headphones).
Sennheiser HD 800s - new ~$1100 or higher
Sennheiser IE 80 - new ~$200
Bose QC 15 Limited - new ~$200
Original eBay Auction Link for the Sennheiser HD 800s:
PayPal Transaction Screen Shots:
As soon as I saw the listing I messaged him through eBay messages to get the deal closed ASAP.
Now we move onto text messages (Through my Google Voice Phone #)
ImageShack Album with all pictures:
You can read for yourself how the conversation goes but basically... *Please note the time stamps*
*I send him $850 for the Sennheiser HD 800s and Bose QC 15s
*I try to contact him after I send the $850. Mainly call before I send a large payment if I can to see if the person is shady or not. Guy does not pick up...
*Seller gets payment flagged by PayPal. Says PayPal suspects "money laundering" - I ask him to send me a screenshot so I can see for myself. Basically want proof.
*Seller says that he could work out something if I send him half of the money (because the $850 payment is on hold) so that he can ship, and then send the other half when I receive the items.
*I insist that he sends me screenshots of the PayPal claim. Seller sends pics. I request extra pics (pics of the claim in the resolution center page to see whether or not the guy can actually refund, or is bsing me) - seller does not send those pics.
*Seller says he has another PP account where I can send half of the payment. Note how he says the PP account is disposable and after I receive the items, I can open a claim because PP cannot remove money from a bank account even if your account has a negative balance (Called PP and checked - that is their policy. They cannot take money out of your bank account even if your balance is negative, so the seller is correct and knows what he is doing - fraud).
*I'm not really interested in the fraud, but let him know we could talk about it AFTER I receive the items. I just want what I paid for...
*Seller displays expertise in duping PP/committing fraud by saying that he only withdraws $150 per 24 hrs.
*I pay for the $425 invoice (half) for the seller shipping me the Sennheiser HD 800 and QC 15 (does not include the Sennheiser IE 80s)
*I ask if I can speak to him over the phone. I get annoyed after a couple of hours and threaten him saying that I will open a claim if he doesn't pick up. Seems to get his attention. When I talk over the phone, I can hear kids screaming in the background and the seller apologizes saying he is very busy. I ask him if he is serious about selling the headphones/IEMs because if he isn't I'm not interested. Seller says he will be in contact and is serious about the transaction. We end the call on good terms.
*I ask the seller if he can include the Sennheiser IE 80s so that everything comes in one package (wanted to save time). Seller says he can include them if I send $200
*I send $200 to a different PayPal account (Have sent payments to 3 different PP accounts now)
*Seller says he will ship on Monday
*I ask seller for tracking
*Seller says his colleague got into a car accident and that he sent me the tracking via email (a lie)
*Seller drops communication.
*I call every phone number/email every email I have on the seller.
*Refer to PayPal claim transaction screenshots above to see contact information. All are fake. One phone # is dead, one is for a lady in Canada who had no idea someone was using her phone number and another does not have a voice mail.
*I open PayPal claims on all 3 payments.
*I talk to a PayPal rep when I receive the refund for the $850 about the situation and let her know I suspect the seller is committing fraud and that he is screwing PP over. Let them know seller is using different emails for PayPal (although they all have "merevial" in the beginnings of the emails) and fake names/contact information. Customer rep said they would look into it.
*I call the BBB (Better Business Bureau) to figure out of the business Border City Audio and Ontario Warehouse are real.
Surprisingly Border City Audio had a BBB page (although they are not BBB accredited)
*I talk to BBB representatives and they have nothing on file. They do not know if it is even a real business (I suspect it is not.)
*I ask if I can open a claim against Border City Audio on the BBB website, they say it would probably be better to open it on IC3
*I am considering opening a claim on IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center)
What I'm asking you guys to do:
Find out who this guy is if possible (not really worried about the money because PP will take care of that). I understand he is using fake names/contact/information, but if somehow you can get him, that would be great! Basically I want to warn others about this seller.
Confirmed Contact Information Seller Has (Contact information the seller and I have communicated through):
519-972-3741 (Cell) - Seller MIGHT pick up if you call - He doesn't pick up my phone calls though (knows my phone #'s)
I was on eBay a few days ago and noticed a VERY suspicious BIN ($475) for a pair of Sennheiser HD 800s. I suspect that this might be the same seller (same location – Detroit, Michigan)