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That might be a problem.  Some integrated sound for computers are really bad with lots of bass rolloff.

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That might be a problem.  Some integrated sound for computers are really bad with lots of bass rolloff.

My laptop is from summer 2011, so it should have a decent soundcard right?

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What source are you running them out of?


If that was directed at myself, I ran them out of an IPhone 4(EQu) > Fiio E11 > CAL!, a Sansa Clip > Fiio E11 > CAL!, and Sony Vaio (foobar2k) > Fiio E5 > CAL!

 

 

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Alright, thanks for your input bro. Please reply again if you feel like the bass is getting better. Or are you a basshead?

I definitely have a basshead side to me, but my comments were not based on a desire for earth shaking bass. My initial impressions led to concerns about bass quality in general, not just quantity alone. I can get by with and appreciate recessed bass as long as it has good extension and depth (I wouldn't call CAL!'s bass recessed, please don't confuse my words). The bass just isn't on par (at this point) quality-wise as my ATH A900x, ATH Pro700mkII, or even my Somic MH463.

 

As I list those 'phones I realise those are all bassier cans, so maybe I am out to lunch on my feelings that this headphone wouldn't sound great to anyone out of the box.

 

Tell you what, can you suggest some tracks that you'd be listening to and I can try and find the highest quality (bitrate) version of that song and tell you how they sound? I'm happy to help in any way that I can, and perhaps find myself some genres that really make this headphone shine.


Edited by TapTapPull - 4/25/13 at 10:59am
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If that was directed at myself, I ran them out of an IPhone 4(EQu) > Fiio E11 > CAL!, a Sansa Clip > Fiio E11 > CAL!, and Sony Vaio (foobar2k) > Fiio E5 > CAL!

Can you test them out how they are straight out of your pc/laptop?

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Can you test them out how they are straight out of your pc/laptop?


Absolutely. Could you also list some tracks that you'd want to hear through them yourself, and I can try and find the highest-qualilty version of it for myself to demo?

 

This would be once I am home from work, probably around 5/5:30pm PST,

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If that was directed at myself, I ran them out of an IPhone 4(EQu) > Fiio E11 > CAL!, a Sansa Clip > Fiio E11 > CAL!, and Sony Vaio (foobar2k) > Fiio E5 > CAL!

 

 

I definitely have a basshead side to me, but my comments were not based on a desire for earth shaking bass. My initial impressions led to concerns about bass quality in general, not just quantity alone. I can get by with and appreciate recessed bass as long as it has good extension and depth (I wouldn't call CAL!'s bass recessed, please don't confuse my words). The bass just isn't on par (at this point) quality-wise as my ATH A900x, ATH Pro700mkII, or even my Somic MH463.

 

As I list those 'phones I realise those are all bassier cans, so maybe I am out to lunch on my feelings that this headphone wouldn't sound great to anyone out of the box.

 

Tell you what, can you suggest some tracks that you'd be listening to and I can try and find the highest quality (bitrate) version of that song and tell you how they sound? I'm happy to help in any way that I can, and perhaps find myself some genres that really make this headphone shine.

How many hours are they burned in yet if you would take a guess? Alright try these songs out just on your laptop/pc without any amps: Tech N9ne - Technicians.

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Meet me in the sky.

Twista - On Top.

 

Please tell me how they sounded afterwards.

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Absolutely. Could you also list some tracks that you'd want to hear through them yourself, and I can try and find the highest-qualilty version of it for myself to demo?

 

This would be once I am home from work, probably around 5/5:30pm PST,

Look at my reply above.

post #52 of 89

Thanks for the tracks - hip-hop, nice. I'm familiar with all of those artist/groups.

 

Burn in:

 

1.5 listening last night+ 3 hours burn-in while out last night + 1 hour listening when I returned home last night (no hours during sleep) + 3.5 hours burning in at home today up to this point while I work = 9 hours to this point.

 

When I get home it'll have an additional 6 hours, so 15 hours when I get home to listen.

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Thanks for the tracks - hip-hop, nice. I'm familiar with all of those artist/groups.

 

Burn in:

 

1.5 listening last night+ 3 hours burn-in while out last night + 1 hour listening when I returned home last night (no hours during sleep) + 3.5 hours burning in at home today up to this point while I work = 9 hours to this point.

 

When I get home it'll have an additional 6 hours, so 15 hours when I get home to listen.

Alright man. I hope that the bass quality gets better, otherwise it's a big letdown for me.

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How many hours are they burned in yet if you would take a guess? Alright try these songs out just on your laptop/pc without any amps: Tech N9ne - Technicians.

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Meet me in the sky.

Twista - On Top.

 

Please tell me how they sounded afterwards.

Look at my reply above.

Alright, I'm home. CAL!s have about 15 hours burn-in at this point. I found mp3 files of each song and am playing them through fubar 2000 with flat EQ. My descriptions are going to sound elementary or simple; I'm new to the vocabulary, specifically what terms correspond with what I'm actually hearing, so forgive me.

 

Tech N9ne - Technicians: This song has a couple of interesting and potentially "challenging" bass notes, but I really like how the CAL! handles them. The synth/bass starting at 3:11 is very unique and sounds great. Vocals on the chorus are powerful, separate, and expansive. Tech's lyrics are crisp, close, and never harsh. Not bad!

 

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Meet Me in the Sky: I found a couple different versions of this track online, but am testing the one I found with the highest bitrate. It begins with some interesting synths, rather than just piano like the other version I found. I can feel the emotion in K-Young's vocals on the chorus.  Bass extends low and wide, while not being overpowering. The piano is smooth and warm, no harshness. Last verse, with Bizzy Bone, has such a unique voice but I feel that the 'phone did a great job presenting it in a fair and accurate light. Claps are well blended, no harshness. Sounded pretty good!

 

Twista - On Top: Of the three songs, this was my favorite song to listen to through these headphones. Opening synths sound fine, a little recessed, I feel due to the producer's intended track mixing. Bass is more forward, displayed nicely, deep and long. The mixing of Akon's voice sounds nice, with a tight delay. Twista's lyrics almost sit on top of the music, rather than inside of it. Would have to compare with other 'phones to know if this is simply track production or not.

 

All in all, at this point, the bass from these phones is lighter than I prefer, but not what I'd call neutral. It can go deep, and the bass notes make themselves apparent when required, although I feel not to a basshead's preference.

 

I'm going to continue to burn them in and listen to them exclusively for the next few days, so I can better evaluate them for what they are, instead of what they aren't.


Edited by TapTapPull - 4/25/13 at 6:52pm
post #55 of 89
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Alright, I'm home. CAL!s have about 15 hours burn-in at this point. I found mp3 files of each song and am playing them through fubar 2000 with flat EQ. My descriptions are going to sound elementary or simple; I'm new to the vocabulary, specifically what terms correspond with what I'm actually hearing, so forgive me.

 

Tech N9ne - Technicians: This song has a couple of interesting and potentially "challenging" bass notes, but I really like how the CAL! handles them. The synth/bass starting at 3:11 is very unique and sounds great. Vocals on the chorus are powerful, separate, and expansive. Tech's lyrics are crisp, close, and never harsh. Not bad!

 

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Meet Me in the Sky: I found a couple different versions of this track online, but am testing the one I found with the highest bitrate. It begins with some interesting synths, rather than just piano like the other version I found. I can feel the emotion in K-Young's vocals on the chorus.  Bass extends low and wide, while not being overpowering. The piano is smooth and warm, no harshness. Last verse, with Bizzy Bone, has such a unique voice but I feel that the 'phone did a great job presenting it in a fair and accurate light. Claps are well blended, no harshness. Sounded pretty good!

 

Twista - On Top: Of the three songs, this was my favorite song to listen to through these headphones. Opening synths sound fine, a little recessed, I feel due to the producer's intended track mixing. Bass is more forward, displayed nicely, deep and long. The mixing of Akon's voice sounds nice, with a tight delay. Twista's lyrics almost sit on top of the music, rather than inside of it. Would have to compare with other 'phones to know if this is simply track production or not.

 

All in all, at this point, the bass from these phones is lighter than I prefer, but not what I'd call neutral. It can go deep, and the bass notes make themselves apparent when required, although I feel not to a basshead's preference.

 

I'm going to continue to burn them in and listen to them exclusively for the next few days, so I can better evaluate them for what they are, instead of what they aren't.

Alright thanks a lot for your input man. Did the bass had better quality after 15 hours of burn in? Also, how is the instrument separation in general?

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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post

Alright thanks a lot for your input man. Did the bass had better quality after 15 hours of burn in? Also, how is the instrument separation in general?


No problem. Yes, I feel like bass quality improved between listenings, after some burn-in. I feel like further burn-in could also help, so I will still withhold final judgement. perhaps they were EQ'd poorly through my portable devices, as leaving everything neutral through my laptop sounded quite fine. Coaxing more bass through EQ only degraded the bass quality.

 

Instrument separation is satisfactory, above-average. I will play some FLAC through my laptop after work today and really let you know, as those songs I listened to yesterday were all below 320kb/s which I'm sure effected the separation. The headphone is not analytical enough to make lower-bitrate songs un-listenable, however, which is a plus. Less than 10% of my library is FLAC/lossless at this point, so it is good that I can listen to average-quality tracks and still enjoy the sounds.


Edited by TapTapPull - 4/26/13 at 10:01am
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No problem. Yes, I feel like bass quality improved between listenings, after some burn-in. I feel like further burn-in could also help, so I will still withhold final judgement. perhaps they were EQ'd poorly through my portable devices, as leaving everything neutral through my laptop sounded quite fine. Coaxing more bass through EQ only degraded the bass quality.

 

Instrument separation is satisfactory, above-average. I will play some FLAC through my laptop after work today and really let you know, as those songs I listened to yesterday were all below 320kb/s which I'm sure effected the separation. The headphone is not analytical enough to make lower-bitrate songs un-listenable, however, which is a plus. Less than 10% of my library is FLAC/lossless at this point, so it is good that I can listen to average-quality tracks and still enjoy the sounds.

Alright. What headphones did you own before the CAL!?

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