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But you also like the Cavali audio amp's rolleyes.gif. There is another thing that I'm quite interested in. Do you prefer listening to things that are more neutral and linear or neutralish with a bit of fun factor thrown in?

 

You prefer the SR-007 mk1's over any other headphone you own?

 

 

The O2, B22, and BHSE are all considered "neutral" by a lot of folks, yet all sound pretty distinctly different to me. "Wire-with-gain" I've realized is a meaningless term. That being said I tend to prefer stuff that is more linear than not. The overall balance of the SR-009 is just a bit too trebly for me to use over long periods. The Abyss is similar, but not as trebly. The Abyss also has a much more convincing sense of presence and weight to my ears, but it's not a bassy headphone by any means. The balance is similar to the Paradox to my ears for those who are familiar with how those measure / sound.

 

The Cavalli sound has a slight warmth to it, but it's not beyond what I'd consider neutral / natural. No more so than, say, the B22 or BHSE. Either way though I've used the Abyss out of a variety of amps, not just the Cavalli ones. The Moth 2A3, B22, some portables, and un-amped. It's extremely power hungry, maybe more than the HE-6, but it still sounds pretty good even out of some modest stuff.

 

When it comes to long term / live-with-it-everyday kind of listening, I prefer a very slightly dark balance but still nothing bassy or mushy or whatever. Hence the SR-007.


Edited by MuppetFace - 7/10/13 at 3:20am
post #332 of 547
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The O2, B22, and BHSE are all considered "neutral" by a lot of folks, yet all sound pretty distinctly different to me. "Wire-with-gain" I've realized is a meaningless term. That being said I tend to prefer stuff that is more linear than not. The overall balance of the SR-009 is just a bit too trebly for me to use over long periods. The Abyss is similar, but not as trebly. The Abyss also has a much more convincing sense of presence and weight, but it's not a bassy headphone by any means. The balance is similar to the Paradox to my ears for those who are familiar with how those measure / sound.

 

I've used the Abyss out of a variety of amps, btw, not just the Cavalli ones. The Moth 2A3, B22, some portables, and un-amped. It's extremely power hungry, maybe more than the HE-6, but it still sounds pretty good even out of some modest stuff.

 

When it comes to long term / live-with-it-everyday kind of listening, I prefer a very slightly dark balance but still nothing bassy or mushy or whatever. Hence the SR-007.

Weird thing I can sort of agree with you, but when I first it, hard for me to describe it almost sounded like a treble etch, grainy, dry sounding as if it's forced to produce something that wasn't there in the first place. I don't know if you have heard much of the vintage Lambda's as I recall reading you have had some bad experience with them failing going kabutz, the 009 has that sort of same treble, dry and grainy sounding but not as noticeable unless you concentrate on the music finding flaws or things that stand out. I may need to revisit 009 again to confirm what it is that sounded bit off.

 

That almost sounds like an inadequately powered HE-6. Has it's bright'ish sounding moments. I do need to make my trip down to my distributor and listen to them. 

 

Glad you like the 007 as well as did I, but no love for the original Omega's? Remains my favourite despite my short ownership with them. frown.gif

post #333 of 547
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It's extremely power hungry, maybe more than the HE-6, but it still sounds pretty good even out of some modest stuff.

 

 

That's interesting.  If it's more power hungry than the HE-6 and still able to sound pretty good on modest stuff, that would be a win.  

 

The HE-6 in turn has got lots of bad press being reviewd on medest stuff.  I have witnessed the not so great sound of the HE-6 myself on mid fi and some so called hi end "headphone amps".  Point is - The HE-6 does not sound good / it's best on modest stuff.  This would be a big win for the Abyss if it's able to do so. 

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Yeah at a price like that it should. Not to mention MF's "modest stuff" could be a totally different meaning to both you and I as she collects stuff. Wouldn't be surprised if something such as a GSX is only modest in her books.
Edited by DefQon - 7/10/13 at 6:59am
post #335 of 547
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I'm curious to see how they'd measure on Tyll's rigs, especially since they don't really couple to the head like other orthos: they're more similar to the K1000 and H2+ in that they sit next to the head more than being pressed up against it.

 

It was a bit tricky getting them aligned for best results, but feedback from the square wave I looked at while making positional adjustments was pretty clear. I'm going to remeasure---probably a couple of times---to make sure I'm getting consistent results. Fastest headphone I've ever measured, but also has some high frequency ringing and noise that lasts quite a bit longer than the HD 800, SR-009, and LCD-3. I think they're competitive in the category. Review by end of next week.

post #336 of 547
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It was a bit tricky getting them aligned for best results, but feedback from the square wave I looked at while making positional adjustments was pretty clear. I'm going to remeasure---probably a couple of times---to make sure I'm getting consistent results. Fastest headphone I've ever measured, but also has some high frequency ringing and noise that lasts quite a bit longer than the HD 800, SR-009, and LCD-3. I think they're competitive in the category. Review by end of next week.

Nice! Finally Tyll! I was waiting to see you chime in. popcorn.gif

post #337 of 547
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The Abyss also has a much more convincing sense of presence and weight to my ears, but it's not a bassy headphone by any means. The balance is similar to the Paradox to my ears for those who are familiar with how those measure / sound.

Yep. Another confirmation that paradox's balance done right :)

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Okie dokie, here's my take:  http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones

 

I'm wondering if other have heard the noise confusing the treble that I did?

post #339 of 547
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Okie dokie, here's my take:  http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones

I'm wondering if other have heard the noise confusing the treble that I did?

Great review Tyll as always. I really didn't expect these headphones to be that good but I was looking forward for a review done by you.
Edited by dan.gheorghe - 7/18/13 at 3:20pm
post #340 of 547
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Okie dokie, here's my take:  http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jps-labs-abyss-ab-1266-planar-magnetic-headphones

 

I'm wondering if other have heard the noise confusing the treble that I did?

Illuminating! Great work Tyll.

post #341 of 547

Great work Tyll.

 

As a person who owns the LCD-3 but wants a little more air, soundstage and imaging these sound like my type of can.

But 5.5K?

If the price was dropped to 3.5K I would be interested. Even though I hardly can stand the weight of the Audezes...


Edited by Sweden - 7/18/13 at 3:00pm
post #342 of 547
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And with that (referring to Tyll's review), I rest my case. biggrin.gif

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And with that (referring to Tyll's review), I rest my case. biggrin.gif

They certainly don't measure like $1000 headphones should...oh wait, how much do they cost? tongue.gif Seriously, the rolled off sub-bass, the less than stellar 30Hz square wave response, the poor 300Hz square wave response, the higher bass distortion (and generally higher distortion without much of a separation between 90dB and 100dB) and an impulse response that goes on and on....I really expect a whole lot more for any headphone over $1000, let alone one that costs $5500!  

 

And they still win for fugliest headphones I've ever seen. That said, I still really wanna hear them.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 7/18/13 at 7:53pm
post #344 of 547

Measurements say first iteration, price says mature.

post #345 of 547

Wow. Two great posts in a row. 

 

Pretty much the subtext in my head.

 

 

 

 

Still...fun as hell to listen to.

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