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Anybody know this table? STRATHCLYDE STD 305M PRECISION TRANSCRIPTION Turntable

post #1 of 34
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Can anybody give me any feedback on this table?  I can pick one up for around 250.  I've read good things but value opinions from members a lot more than random people on the internet.  Thanks in advance.

post #2 of 34

Legend. the D version is more feature packed, but the M is good enough. Better than the Linn LP12, but dirty marketing tricks saw it selling far less than it deserved.

Arm selection is a pain though if one is not included. The SME3009 was a favourite arm for it, but also the ADC-1 arm.
 

post #3 of 34
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This one says it comes with a sme III and a recent audio technica cartridge. What do you think of the price? I am in Ontario Canada.
post #4 of 34

If I was you I would dash to the seller and pick up the deck. The arm alone is worth more than $250. And the last time I saw a STD305 on ebay it went for a lot more than $250 without an arm. So all an all you are being offered a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota. Dream deals like this never come my way. I am envious.

post #5 of 34
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Thanks for the replies, it is about a 3 hour drive from where I am. I might try to make it this weekend.
post #6 of 34
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Originally Posted by Baxide View Post

Legend. the D version is more feature packed, but the M is good enough. Better than the Linn LP12, but dirty marketing tricks saw it selling far less than it deserved.

Arm selection is a pain though if one is not included. The SME3009 was a favourite arm for it, but also the ADC-1 arm.

Not even close to the LP12. More a P3 competitior. I sold them all next to each other when new. STD had (by far) the worst bearing and motor of the lot though a hair less flutter than the Rega of the day. Still a fine table. They had a habbit of showing wear on the platter portion of the bearing where it would contact the upper bronze sleeve. Came from loose tolerance not allowing the thin oil to support the largish gap. Check yours. Make sure it is reasonably smooth and everything is well oiled to above that bearing with the platter in. You can always try a higher weight oil but don't use an automotive gear oit that reacts with copper or bronze (Common).


Edited by goodvibes - 4/19/13 at 11:21am
post #7 of 34

It will be one of the most rewarding trip in terms of audiophile treasure find on the forum I reckon. A well set up STD 305M will wipe the floor sound wise with at least 90% of the decks you can find in the "show me a picture of your turntable" thread.  Start looking for a granite base to place it on. It likes granite for some reason. Make sure you order a bearing cleaning and lubrication kit and a new belts before you play it beyond just trying it out to make sure it works OK. I would say not more than an hour's play if it was me. Don't make judgement on sound quality etc until you have cleaned and oiled the bearing, set up the arm (a nightmare with the SME if you are not skilled in the art of patience), inspected the stylus for damage etc.

Select and clean the records you intend to play on it at your first serious listening test. A bottle or two of your favourite tipple, and availability of a disturbance free evening would not go amiss. 

 

You'll be advised to invest in a decent to excellent cartridge when funds become available, and a hunt for a top notch phono amp should also be on your wish list. Cartridge wise I would look at the Denon DL110 ( a high output moving coil cartridge that is ridiculously cheap in terms of bangs for bucks), but outstanding phono amps are harder to find at a sensible price new. So that will be another hunting game. I reckon that you could be spending as much as U$700 for the near perfect TT set up, but one that would be worth ten times that in terms of sheer audiophile nirvana. And all because you can get the basic building blocks at a bargain.

 

Do a search for the manual online. It has some very good info.
 

post #8 of 34
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

Not even close to the LP12. More a P3 competitior.

I would question the P3 ability to even hold a candle to a 305M in good condition. Sound wise we are talking mp3 versus high res. 

post #9 of 34
Thread Starter 

Any idea where I would get a bearing, lubrication, cleaning kit and a new belt?  This is the first STD 305M that I've ever seen online!  I've read about them but never seen one!  It also needs one of the RCA jacks fixed but I might have been replacing them anyways.

post #10 of 34

There are some pictures of a 305M HERE

As you aren't in the UK it is impossible for me to say where you can pick up the turntable spindle bearing oil. Some people have gone to town with their prices and making a hefty mark up on it. So be cautious. Check out the one I use from HERE . It might work out to be economical enough to order it all the way from the UK since it includes just about everything you'll need, short of a pair of surgical gloves. Every other kit I have seen requires you to to source the other bits from somewhere else, which adds to the cost and delays.

 

The RCA jack would be on the SME RCA cable. You might as well get a good set of RCA jacks. The SME cable can be quite expensive to buy, so hopefully it is an original version. If it is, don't even think of changing it at this stage.

 

When you get the deck, take the top lid off and rinse it under a tap in the bath tub or in a big sink with some washing up liquid. That will wash away any big sand grains. After that you can wipe or shake off the excess water and put the cover to dry somewhere save . Don't wipe it off with a cloth instead of running water over it. The plastic is easily scratched by fine dust grains that get stuck into the cloth used to wipe the dust cover.

post #11 of 34
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Well, I pulled the trigger and drove the 5 hours and picked it up last night.  I haven't unpacked it yet but when I do I will post pics.  The audition was amazing!  I listened to some local groups album that the guy had and it sounded incredible through some kind of REALLY cheap preamp and a pair of AKG 420's.  There is not a scratch on the dustcover and it looks like it hasn't even been used!  Now I need to lube it and if anybody ever sees a belt for this for sale ANYWHERE I would appreciate a PM.

 

Personal thanks to Baxide for all your help!  Thank you.

post #12 of 34

It is good knowing that you can now sleep a bit better in the full knowledge that you got a very rare and potent performer secured for your vinyl.

 

I'll keep an eye on any source for the STD belt.
 

post #13 of 34

i just 5 minutes ago found this thread. At the price, it was a steal. Alone SME III is worth it. Do check the bearing on the TT as IIRC goodvibes commented. Not familiar with maintenance of STD305M, but should be otherwise very good deck.

 

Which AT cartridge is hanging on the III ? Audio Technicas can be quite PITA regarding sample to sample variation/consistency, but if it is one of the better models and you maxed your already great luck with a really good sample - DO give it a try before considering any exchange. Better higher compliance AT MMs perform extremely well in SME III, as they are a bit heavy themselves for the highish compliance - hence they require the lowest mass arm you can get. If it is a MM - what options you have available for adjusting phono input capacitance and resistance ? MMs are affected by this quite heavily, and ATs in particular dislike anything above 200 pF and prefer resistance lowered to approx 33Kohm for best frequency response. This is for an "average" AT MM, but 

these values will not change apreciably from model to model.

 

A good AT MM on SME III into a phono load that suits it is still formidable cartridge by any standards. 

post #14 of 34

I agree that it's a very good deck. Very similar to a Systemdek. Congrats. Pull the bearing and check for that wear ring towards the top.


Edited by goodvibes - 4/21/13 at 5:11pm
post #15 of 34
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Originally Posted by Baxide View Post

I would question the P3 ability to even hold a candle to a 305M in good condition. Sound wise we are talking mp3 versus high res. 

Silly statement. You certainly do like to overstate everything. Never said it was better but different attributes. The arm alone could turn the favor towards the STD. STD was more open and lively. Rega had better prat and resonance structure so dynamically more linear though it had more resonance energy in general as well so a bit too grungy for some. More different than worse depending on what you valued and neither was an LP12 which did all those things better while being quieter and more pitch stable as well.


Edited by goodvibes - 4/21/13 at 5:20pm
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