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post #91 of 147
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Originally Posted by SoulSyde View Post

I love that one, it's just so ridiculously expensive.

We'll see if our cost-conscious friends at FiiO ever come out with anything. I'll stick with the crappy one I have from RadioShack for now.

 

the HS2 is a non profit project. and we already stop to sell to end customer cause it is out of stock. 

post #92 of 147

Gotcha.  Thanks James.

post #93 of 147
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the HS2 is a non profit project. and we already stop to sell to end customer cause it is out of stock. 

 

So my 2 HS2s probably are the last ones traveling outside China... This means they are special! :D

post #94 of 147

I just picked one up from AccessoryJack.com.  I couldn't let one of these slip between my fingers since they're likely to be non-existant soon.

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the HS2 is a non profit project. and we already stop to sell to end customer cause it is out of stock. 

 

Wow, I'm glad I got mine when I did.

 

I used the HS2 for several hours to determine there was no benefit to keeping a recently purchased (refurbished) HiFiMan HM-801 as a card reader to Line Out vs. sticking with my 3-year-old Sony PCM-M10 (which has a very nice 24/96-capable, proprietary sigma-delta DAC).  Had I been interested in using the HM-801's headphone amp, there would have been no contest.  The PCM-M10 headphone amp isn't even as good as a Sanza Clip+.  But for my purpose of wanting only a card reader and a DAC to Line Out, the PCM-M10 has won a very close contest. 

 

The HS-2 made this comparison very easy.  It's an awesome tool.  Thanks James!!  :D

 

I returned the HM-801 today, under their very generous 30-day refund policy. 

 

 

Results of my comparison can be found here:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/456327/sony-pcm-m10-as-portable-player/165#post_9799784

 

By the way, I would love to see FiiO make a portable device that's nothing more than an SD card reader with a UI similar to the X3, with a killer DAC to analog Line Out (for use with both desktop and portable amps), supporting at least FLAC to at least 96/24.  It would have no internal amplifier, nor any other bells and whistles.   I should think this could offer (hoped for) X5 sound quality at an X3 price - thanks to fewer parts.

 

To my knowledge, no one is making such a product and yet, there are so many portable amps to choose from, with so few portable sources.  Everybody's buying DAPs with amps, then connecting them to more powerful external amps.  It doesn't make sense having to buy parts that get left out of the chain.

 

Mike


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post #96 of 147
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post
 

 

Wow, I'm glad I got mine when I did.

 

I used the HS2 for several hours to determine there was no benefit to keeping a recently purchased (refurbished) HiFiMan HM-801 as a card reader to Line Out vs. sticking with my 3-year-old Sony PCM-M10 (which has a very nice 24/96-capable, proprietary sigma-delta DAC).  Had I been interested in using the HM-801's headphone amp, there would have been no contest.  The PCM-M10 headphone amp isn't even as good as a Sanza Clip+.  But for my purpose of wanting only a card reader and a DAC to Line Out, the PCM-M10 has won a very close contest.

 

The HS-2 made this comparison very easy.  It's an awesome tool.  Thanks James!!  :D

 

I returned the HM-801 today, under their very generous 30-day refund policy.

 

 

Results of my comparison can be found here:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/456327/sony-pcm-m10-as-portable-player/165#post_9799784

 

By the way, I would love to see FiiO make a portable device that's nothing more than an SD card reader with a UI similar to the X3, with a killer DAC to analog Line Out (for use with both desktop and portable amps), supporting at least FLAC to at least 96/24.  It would have no internal amplifier, nor any other bells and whistles.   I should think this could offer (hoped for) X5 sound quality at an X3 price - thanks to fewer parts.

 

To my knowledge, no one is making such a product and yet, there are so many portable amps to choose from, with so few portable sources.  Everybody's buying DAPs with amps, then connecting them to more powerful external amps.  It doesn't make sense having to buy parts that get left out of the chain.

 

Mike

 

 

thanks for Mike, I know there are quite someone may need such device but it is still too small to release such DAP. it is not economic but I believe someone may develop it in the coming soon.

post #97 of 147

I would have to agree with you James.  Thank you for responding to my suggestion.

 

Your revenue is no doubt heavily dependent on customers who want a DAP with headphone amplifier.  I suppose only a small percentage of your customers are Head-Fi types who use the Line Out.

 

Thanks for making yourself so accessible to your customers - you outshine all the other manufacturers in this behavior!

 

Mike

post #98 of 147
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I would have to agree with you James.  Thank you for responding to my suggestion.

 

Your revenue is no doubt heavily dependent on customers who want a DAP with headphone amplifier.  I suppose only a small percentage of your customers are Head-Fi types who use the Line Out.

 

Thanks for making yourself so accessible to your customers - you outshine all the other manufacturers in this behavior!

 

Mike

 

hope this make more and more people support us in the future.

post #99 of 147

Hi guys.

 

I was wondering. If you connect an X3 and another player (no matter which) to the HS2 and you start switching between the X3 and the other player while the 2 DAP's are playing music, is it possible for the X3 to burn out? Since the amp is left functioning and loadless all of a sudden. I suppose the amp should be bothered by the lack of load, right?

post #100 of 147
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Hi guys.

 

I was wondering. If you connect an X3 and another player (no matter which) to the HS2 and you start switching between the X3 and the other player while the 2 DAP's are playing music, is it possible for the X3 to burn out? Since the amp is left functioning and loadless all of a sudden. I suppose the amp should be bothered by the lack of load, right?

 

There are some types of tube amps out there that must have a load at all times, when turned on, but I don't believe I've ever heard of a solid state amp that can be damaged by having no load.

 

In any case, I've used my HS2 to switch between several different solid state amps while playing into one headphone, with no problems.

 

:-)

 

Mike

post #101 of 147

hi james can we still get one from fiio directly?

 

thanks

post #102 of 147

I am also interested.

post #103 of 147
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the HS2 is a non profit project. and we already stop to sell to end customer cause it is out of stock. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by SoulSyde View Post
 

I just picked one up from AccessoryJack.com.  I couldn't let one of these slip between my fingers since they're likely to be non-existant soon.

 

http://www.accessoryjack.com/fiio-hs2-headphone-output-switcher-black.html

 

...You're welcome.

post #104 of 147

Thanks :grin:

post #105 of 147

Hi,

 

Newbie here.  Just found out about FiiO and I really like their products and the company.  I've not been a headphone person, as have always really preferred speakers.  I've adjusted to earbuds a bit more over the years now since using them at work and other times so I thought I might use my headphones more.  I really liked this switcher, it was going to be my first FiiO product, but I was too late to get it from the source, so I'm trying that AccessoryJack option thanks to google and I see it mentioned here as well.

 

I love what Fii0 is doing so I wanted to register and thank James for running such a good company with principles.  I wish you all the best.  I'm reading up on ripping my rather large CD collection and am looking for digital components to integrate my older analog system of Carver components with some new digital sources.

 

I must say the device described my zilch0md is something I'd be interested in.  Maybe even more so I would prefer a simple digital sd-card source reader/interface that simply has an S/PDIF optical out allowing any DAC to be used.  Seems like an obvious component given the large number of DAC/Amp combo units available.  A device like this would need little updating except for screens and battery power as time when on (I'd like a desktop one, and a portable one that used 18650 cells).  The DACs and amps down stream would be more likely the components replaced just as it is with my HK CD player, I never feel the need to replace it in the big picture of things.

 

Anyway great forum, and I'm sure I'll try a few FiiO devices just for fun until I find the components I want for the long term.  Seems like the D3 and D03K are great components to have kicking around like spare patch cords, speakers, headphones, and such.  The E17 also seems like just an incredibly versatile device to have.

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