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I mean it's boring in a sense, that's already so good, that there isn't much left to be desired(and that can be sad).  :evil:

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Not boring at all in my setup (Bifrost and Asgard 2). I get punchy and deep lows, thick mids, sparkling but not fatiguing highs and incredible soundstage and imaging. They are far from boring, clinical and 2D sound that studio phones produce.


I totally agree with everything you have said.  I'm wondering if the people who are disappointed by the K712 PRO, are wanting a more artificial sound full of bass all the time?  I never add EQ or adjust any music going through these headphones because I do not need to.  I have played some music where at certain points in the song / instrumental, a huge surge of bass enters to add drama and just for one part and then returns to a normal balanced sound.  Most of the time when someone who does not like the K712 PRO complains about lack of bass or interest, I often find their recommendations to include very inferior and coloured sounding devices, and often lacking finesse and clarity.  I've been using my K712 PRO for nine months every day on a wide range of music, e.g. Classical, Jazz, Rock, Metal, Funk Fusion, Pop 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 / 90s, Blues, Folk, Electronic and others.  I've listened to a wide range of formats too like SACD, DVD-A, Blu Ray Audio, HDtracks, Audio CD, MP3, DSD, DXD, vinyl records and singles, cassette and reel tape.  These headphones really deliver all the detail and depth and accuracy you could want.

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I mean it's boring in a sense, that's already so good, that there isn't much left to be desired(and that can be sad).  :evil:

 

Learn to be satisfied and content with what you have, because you may not always have amazing things like this.  Remember you only truly appreciate something when it is gone.

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Learn to be satisfied and content with what you have, because you may not always have amazing things like this.  Remember you only truly appreciate something when it is gone.

I am very satisfied with the K712.

Can't imagine anything with its qualities (comfort, bass, soundstage, resolution, ...EQ'ability :k701smile:) in the same price range.

post #4460 of 4469

hello, just arrived recently my new 712, I would like to know if my fiio e17k is a good complement to them.
noted some lack of clarity in the treble ... also I must wait hours burned...  

 

thx

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hello, just arrived recently my new 712, I would like to know if my fiio e17k is a good complement to them.
noted some lack of clarity in the treble ... also I must wait hours burned...  

 

thx


The treble should be clear right out of the box. What's your previous reference for treble clarity?

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The treble should be clear right out of the box. What's your previous reference for treble clarity?

well, actually these are my first headphones to be home, I have the Dunu 2000J in ear, they are very clear and had read that 712 are too.

I suppose I should get used to having the headset over the ear. :k701smile:

 

 something about fiio e17k? They make a good couple?

 

thx

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Also, the 'pro' part of the 712 indicates some extra tuning and refining of the 712's drivers making them more suitable

for professional work :)

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Originally Posted by Sito Lupion View Post
 

well, actually these are my first headphones to be home, I have the Dunu 2000J in ear, they are very clear and had read that 712 are too.

I suppose I should get used to having the headset over the ear. :k701smile:

 

 something about fiio e17k? They make a good couple?

 

thx

Yes, sure.

E17K is a clear sounding DAC/Amp

 

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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post
 

Also, the 'pro' part of the 712 indicates some extra tuning and refining of the 712's drivers making them more suitable

for professional work :)

I'm not so sure.

The AKG K712 is a warmer, more laid back version of the AKG K702. These are pretty much the same headphones but K712 has different ear pads, which are responsible for the change in sound signature.

 

K702 is drier, airier and tighter, overall a more analytical headphone. Many professionals choose them for its precision and extreme separation.

 

K712 on the other hand seems more cohesive, warmer, smoother and more suitable for audiophiles wanting to enjoy their preferred recordings rather than analysing them.

 

Both are very precise across the board anyway, so they both can carry the Pro label, but strictly speaking the K702 is more of a Pro tool, despite the marketing ploy.

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I may be wrong but I don't think the tweaks to the tuning is well known or advertised but I believe they were done to the drivers

so as to give a better [whatever] for pro use

I have edited and mastered audio with them and have found them VERY accurate and reliable in this regard

I haven't really tried them too much with music yet (for pleasure)

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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post
 

I may be wrong but I don't think the tweaks to the tuning is well known or advertised but I believe they were done to the drivers

so as to give a better [whatever] for pro use

I have edited and mastered audio with them and have found them VERY accurate and reliable in this regard

I haven't really tried them too much with music yet (for pleasure)

How would you consider they behave dynamically?  I'm thinking in comparison to the Beyerdynamic DT770 250 Ohm.  The Beyers, when amped with something that can drive them properly have (in my opinion) excellent dynamics particularly with drums and bass; the beyers also give a good impression of the timbre of a musical instrument, how do the AKGs reproduce in this respect?

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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post
 

I may be wrong but I don't think the tweaks to the tuning is well known or advertised but I believe they were done to the drivers

so as to give a better [whatever] for pro use

I have edited and mastered audio with them and have found them VERY accurate and reliable in this regard

I haven't really tried them too much with music yet (for pleasure)


The tweak to the tuning is mainly added bass and lower midrange, you can see this on frequency response measurements.

If you read through this thread you'll find that the difference is not a driver retune. K712 has different earpads, and that's tweaking the sound.

If you put K702 pads on K712 you'll get less bass, airier highs and drier presentation. If you put K712 pads on K702 you get more bass.

There's still a chance for the drivers being slightly different, but if that's the case, the difference is very very subtle.

 

I don't doubt you find them VERY accurate because they are very accurate, it's only comparing side by side that you'll find that K702 has slightly bigger stage and a more detail orientated presentation. I'm not saying K702 is better, don't get me wrong. K712 is probabbly a more well rounded headphone, but K702 is more analytical. Depending on your preferences and uses, one might be better than the other.

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Hmm this sounds interesting, I imagine having two new headphones for the price of one plus a pair of pads smily_headphones1.gif
I am in the market for a new pair of cans and this time I wanna try open ones. I do most of my listening through Mojo / ATH W1000X, can anyone compare the two? Or give an impression from Mojo K712 synergy?
Other options right now would be sennheiser hd 600/650.
I want to use my Forza Audio Works Claire Hybrid Cable with a adapter or pigtail terminated with 3.5mm TRS female. Any recommendations?

Cheers
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hi guys, any comments on k712 pro vs hd600/x2? im thinking about grabbing a 3rd headphone for my openback rotation, kind of debating between the R70x and K712 pro right now

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