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post #3526 of 3539
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Originally Posted by Gamingmusiclove View Post

Interesting. I really don't want to sacrifice the detail whoring and treble K712 seem to have, but maybe a little warmth wont harm

No worries. I am sure that the FiiO stacks does not take away any natural detail but the stack does not offer any extra boost in details either. Treble wise, the FiiO stacks is a ted darker. What are you currently using to drive your K712 thought?
post #3527 of 3539
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No worries. I am sure that the FiiO stacks does not take away any natural detail but the stack does not offer any extra boost in details either. Treble wise, the FiiO stacks is a ted darker. What are you currently using to drive your K712 thought?

Haven´t bought them yet, thats why i said "seem to have", and its actually based on other people impression, but if i had them i guess i would use my pc with spotify, horrible source

post #3528 of 3539
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Haven´t bought them yet, thats why i said "seem to have", and its actually based on other people impression, but if i had them i guess i would use my pc with spotify, horrible source

If I were you, I will definitely avoid Spotify. The files there sound dark-ish and drowning feeling to me.
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If I were you, I will definitely avoid Spotify. The files there sound dark-ish and drowning feeling to me.

I KNEW IT WASN´T JUST ME. I always thought that spotify wasnt as good as most people tell you. Thing is, i had to erase all my music collection just to have memory space in my computer, which is something i regret. When i get some memory space, i might stop using it, but spotify also gives you a huge music collection, so its very hard to decide if i should just stop using spotify or have a balance

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I KNEW IT WASN´T JUST ME. I always thought that spotify wasnt as good as most people tell you. Thing is, i had to erase all my music collection just to have memory space in my computer, which is something i regret. When i get some memory space, i might stop using it, but spotify also gives you a huge music collection, so its very hard to decide if i should just stop using spotify or have a balance

I am currently using Tidal. It streams at 1411kbps. Works almost the same as Spotify but better in sound quality. Library wise, the Spotify being more popular, will for sure have more collections than the Tidal but not by much. smily_headphones1.gif
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I am currently using Tidal. It streams at 1411kbps. Works almost the same as Spotify but better in sound quality. Library wise, the Spotify being more popular, will for sure have more collections than the Tidal but not by much. smily_headphones1.gif

how much do you have to pay? monthly? yearly? Im interested

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how much do you have to pay? monthly? yearly? Im interested

Currently, it's USD20/month.
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I have been going back and forth between Spotify Premium and Tidal for over a week now and am trying to decide which one to stay with. There is a little more extension in the highs with Tidal and it just feels more alive. However, this is a very minimal difference to my ears and I'm not sure it's worth an extra $10/mo. over Spotify. In addition, Tidal does not have the music selection or user playlists like Spotify Prem.

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Originally Posted by Blueshound24 View Post

I have been going back and forth between Spotify Premium and Tidal for over a week now and am trying to decide which one to stay with. There is a little more extension in the highs with Tidal and it just feels more alive. However, this is a very minimal difference to my ears and I'm not sure it's worth an extra $10/mo. over Spotify. In addition, Tidal does not have the music selection or user playlists like Spotify Prem.

I see Tidal improving pretty fast. Hopefully they will add that to the upcoming release. Also, offline mode for desktop please! smily_headphones1.gif
post #3535 of 3539

Couple of words about metal music + AKG K712 PRO. (Summary on impressions on metal + almost 60 cans is here http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution

 

AKG K712 PRO

 

Initially I had an idea to listen 712 in comparison with 812, but at the first test it became clear that there is no sense in such a test. 812 and 712 are animals of obviously different levela (a top top level and a top middle level) and different character (ultra-bright with an average soundstage and darkish with a wide scene). Next I tried to compare 712 to Denons D600, again it made no sense, at fast switch from cans to cans it was too obvious, that D600 have very "non-flat" character. As a result I listened 712 in parallel with Senns 650. And in my opinion result are not in favor of 650, objectively, without discounts for a personal taste.

 

The character of cans a bit darkish, cool (as a matter of a fact I expected something brighter), fast and accurate. Relative darkness doesn't affect resolution, detail level is quite high. Mids are natural and have cold spirit. Soundstage is wide, not such a stadium as Senns 800 have, but scene is much wider than average, cans are airy . Headphones have enough bass for heavy genres, often there was a wish to get more slam, but generally we have enough of low frequencies. It seems reasonable to assume, that increase of bass pressure would lead to problems with a soundstage air

 

Positive
Symphonic: Natural niche for 712. Very broad soundstage, moderately sparkling treble, cool mids, adequate bass and flat overal balance.
Power: Space, speed. Compact and quite sufficient bass. Bit of brightness for fun. 
Industrial: Accurate and cold. Nice infrabass extention. Quantity of a bass - good or great? Perhaps Ultrasone 2900 Industrial interpretation is better, but if you to compare to any other middle level colleague - it's perfect.
Sludge, Stoner: There is no such a hard requirements to quantity of a bass as on Doom. Great mids, wide soundstage and easy sound flow make gestalt response with genre.
Black: Perfect - accurate, quick, with great bass control. It would be possible to add some punch on low frequencies, but then "air" would dissipate perhaps.
Progressive: It is predictably great. Vast soundstage, cool, technically perfect. 

 

Negative
Doom: There is no enough bass concentration (surprisingly just a little).
Death: Somewhat strange, but even more sharp transients, than 712 have, would be welcomed here and it would be great to add some bite at treble.
Grindcore: Here we seriously lack the bass slam, a wide sounstage becomes an obstacle for great Grindcore performance.

 

Overall, in my opinion, 712 today are the best cans for heavy genres on the middle level.

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I have a somewhat urgent question for everyone who has owned this can.  I recently purchased these headphones and have been very pleased with their sound, but notice that I can make the really deep bass distort horrifically with a few songs.  Has anyone else had this issue, or do I have lemon?  I'm definitely thinking about returning them, but need to find out if this is a normal issue and whether I should re-purchase them, or move on to something like the HD650's. I only have a few days left in my return window... :confused_face:

 

The tracks that cause the issue include:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2IlehSR5zM

 

and 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_soLG38kJak

 

(Distortion around 00:40 through 00:50.... and yes, the distortion comes through even with the youtube video.) 

 

 

Feedback would be really appreciated! If this is the norm AKG has got some problems. My NAD HP50's have no distortion problems at all with these tracks. 

I just received my k712's yesterday and unfortunately have the same problem that you describe. The distortion happens on tracks with heavy bass and kick drums. It's so bad that they are basically useless. It's happening on the right side only, while the left is fine. Does anyone know if this distortion goes away after further use? I am thinking this is a manufacturing defect. If anyone else is experiencing this problem, please chime in. Thanks!

post #3537 of 3539

Mine sound perfect. Maybe you got a damaged unit or something, contact the seller.

 

Don't like something orange to sound so great :P... I decided to keep both my K712 and K702/65 because I love them both.


Edited by gabrielnorena - 11/20/14 at 6:31pm
post #3538 of 3539
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Originally Posted by padron View Post
 

I just received my k712's yesterday and unfortunately have the same problem that you describe. The distortion happens on tracks with heavy bass and kick drums. It's so bad that they are basically useless. It's happening on the right side only, while the left is fine. Does anyone know if this distortion goes away after further use? I am thinking this is a manufacturing defect. If anyone else is experiencing this problem, please chime in. Thanks!


Hi Pardon

 

Could be the phones.... but the most likely culprit may be that your amp that is being over driven if you're listening too loud.

What are you using to power the K712s, source, amp?

 

Robert

post #3539 of 3539
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Originally Posted by Rob80b View Post
 


Hi Pardon

 

Could be the phones.... but the most likely culprit may be that your amp that is being over driven if you're listening too loud.

What are you using to power the K712s, source, amp?

 

Robert

Thanks for the feedback, guys. I contacted AKG tech support and they said I most likely got a defective pair of headphones. I returned them to the seller for an exchange. Hopefully things will be better the next go round. 

Cheers

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