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I will try my Audioengine D1 tomorrow as it is kind of tame in the treble area so may make a good match to the K712.

True, I think high gain makes them a little too aggressive sounding. My old amp didn't have a gain setting and it's gain was a lot more than the Lyr 2, the K712 sounded even more aggressive on the EF2A. Because 9 o clock on my EF2A is as loud as the Lyr 2(high gain) at 12 o clock. 

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Yep. Although back to the subject. I decided to finally mess with the gain settings on the Lyr 2. The K712 sounds better on low gain, takes a bit of the treble edge off on similar volumes. It becomes more laid-back and relaxed, more akin to a more spacious and faster HD 600. Maybe high-gain puts a little too much power into the K712. Need to spend more time with low gain and different tubes. 

 

That probably matches my experience with the K712s driven by the Lyr.  No low gain for me, and plenty of upper-mid/lower treble energy.  Wasn't always a bad thing.  I couldn't do more than one album without taking a break, and they did make me want to turn it up.  Do you think you could do longer sessions with them on low gain?

 

Still selling mine, btw :D

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For long listening session, I turn down the top end by a notch and boost the warm region by a notch for my own listening comfort
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The audioengine D1 definitely is more polite in the upper registers as compared to my Little Dot Dac1. I just did about an hour session so will see if my ears feel stressed.

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That probably matches my experience with the K712s driven by the Lyr.  No low gain for me, and plenty of upper-mid/lower treble energy.  Wasn't always a bad thing.  I couldn't do more than one album without taking a break, and they did make me want to turn it up.  Do you think you could do longer sessions with them on low gain?

 

Still selling mine, btw :D

I know the Lyr 2 sounds a bit different than the Lyr, but they do share some characteristics. It isn't always a bad thing it is really fun to listen to at times. They have that problem of wanting you to crank the volume up. Oddly low gain seems to sate that weird urge of cranking the volume up and the treble has less edge, the entire sound characteristic changes a bit as it relaxes a bit and becomes rather gentle on the ears. Even when I crank up the volume the treble takes a step back and the treble dynamics aren't overbearing, bass dynamics come more to life instead. Due to better controlled dynamics, the headphone sounds clearer, cleaner, and more transparent. I can listen to them all day like this, it switches from hyper mode to chill mode so to speak. 


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I know the Lyr 2 sounds a bit different than the Lyr, but they do share some characteristics. It isn't always a bad thing it is really fun to listen to at times. They have that problem of wanting you to crank the volume up. Oddly low gain seems to sate that weird urge of cranking the volume up and the treble has less edge, the entire sound characteristic changes a bit as it relaxes a bit and becomes rather gentle on the ears. Even when I crank up the volume the treble takes a step back and the treble dynamics aren't overbearing, bass dynamics come more to life instead. Due to better controlled dynamics, the headphone sounds clearer, cleaner, and more transparent. I can listen to them all day like this, it switches from hyper mode to chill mode so to speak. 

 

Thanks, kman.  Maybe I should pull them out of the box and try them with my C5 portable on both gain settings, just for schiits and grins.

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I have been letting my pair burn every day so they have about 60hrs or so on them so far. By Wednesday I should have a C5 I will be reviewing and you can bet the K712 will be one of the most tested headphones during that process :)

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Thanks, kman.  Maybe I should pull them out of the box and try them with my C5 portable on both gain settings, just for schiits and grins.

 

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I have been letting my pair burn every day so they have about 60hrs or so on them so far. By Wednesday I should have a C5 I will be reviewing and you can bet the K712 will be one of the most tested headphones during that process :)

In each case, Cayin C5 or JDS C5?

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I will be testing the Cayin C5

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I will be testing the Cayin C5

Alas. But nonetheless, I look forward to hearing your take. I find the C5 more appealing on paper than the C6.

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In each case, Cayin C5 or JDS C5?

 

JDS Labs for me.

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JDS Labs for me.

Perfect! I'm looking into the JDS C5.

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JDS Labs for me.
Also, if possible, a brief bit about how it pairs with the HE-500 would be most welcome!
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Also, if possible, a brief bit about how it pairs with the HE-500 would be most welcome!

 

I don't use the JDS Labs C5 much, as most of my listening is in The Lab with the Stack o' Schiit.  That said, I did try the C5 with the HE-500s and HE-560s.  I was pleasantly surprised with the HE-500s.  I'd tried a previous pair, but didn't think much of them.  They went belly up, got a replacement, measure the impedance at around 33-34 ohms, then gave them a try.  Got more than enough volume without distortion, on both low and high gain, IIRC.  Now, I didn't do tons of testing, probably didn't listen to really quiet stuff, but what I heard made me think I could use the C5 in a pinch.

 

Not so much with the HE-560s.  They are less efficient, power hungry beasts.  Not at HE-6 levels, from what I've read, but they do seem to enjoy a fair amount of current.

 

Not sure I'll get around to listening to the K712s again.  They're boxed up, I'm hoping to sell, and I'll be pretty busy the next few weeks.  If it helps, the C5 drives the Q701s just fine.

 

I normally run my C5 hooked up to the line out of a Rockbox'd iPod Classic.

 

HTH.

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I don't use the JDS Labs C5 much, as most of my listening is in The Lab with the Stack o' Schiit.  That said, I did try the C5 with the HE-500s and HE-560s.  I was pleasantly surprised with the HE-500s.  I'd tried a previous pair, but didn't think much of them.  They went belly up, got a replacement, measure the impedance at around 33-34 ohms, then gave them a try.  Got more than enough volume without distortion, on both low and high gain, IIRC.  Now, I didn't do tons of testing, probably didn't listen to really quiet stuff, but what I heard made me think I could use the C5 in a pinch.

 

Not so much with the HE-560s.  They are less efficient, power hungry beasts.  Not at HE-6 levels, from what I've read, but they do seem to enjoy a fair amount of current.

 

Not sure I'll get around to listening to the K712s again.  They're boxed up, I'm hoping to sell, and I'll be pretty busy the next few weeks.  If it helps, the C5 drives the Q701s just fine.

 

I normally run my C5 hooked up to the line out of a Rockbox'd iPod Classic.

 

HTH.

I haven't heard the HE-560 yet personally. I will listen to them eventually. Not sure if they are my style or not, can't tell until you listen to them. I did hear both the HE-500 and the HE-6. A well-driven HE-6 is something to behold though and is one of the best headphones I've ever heard. It's a little on the aggressive side though.

 

The K712 took a while for it to become my favorite, I liked it less than the K612 for about 3 weeks of moderate to heavy listening. Then all of a sudden I liked them much more than any other headphone I have owned. The HD 600 has been a headphone that's been slow to warm up to as well for me. I am considering a portable amp eventually so I need to do some research, especially since I am mainly eyeing the Sony MDR-Z7 as my next headphone. Though I am considering the HE-500(which seems to dropped to $500 new) and a few others. 

 

Some reason I get the feeling the Lyr 2 doesn't quite sound right regardless of the tubes I tried. I'm not sure if it's bad dac amp synergy or if I don't like it's presentation much.

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