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Originally Posted by Nada190 View Post
 

Woo hoo just got my K712's! I hate how long AKG's take to burn in...


Ah yes, AKGs do take forever to burn-in. Took my K712s a while to burn-in, pads took some breaking in too. Headphones that take a while to burn-in and break-in can be a nuisance at first but I feel they are worth it long-term. I get the feeling my new Beyer DT 150 is one of those slow to mature phones like the AKGs.

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Originally Posted by RXShadow View Post

So, I just got the K712 and had the chance to try it only briefly.

Impressions below, but probably have to apologize in advance if I didn't seem to explain as well or accurately as I should (new to all of this)

First thing I immediately noticed about this headphones is on the soundstage. I think the first thing I said when I had them on was "oh god". I know AKG has been said to have really good large soundstage, but I didn't expect it to be THAT big. It's almost way too overwhelming for me, actually. I'm not too sure I'll get used to this.

I said previously how worried I am about the bass compared to the Fidelio X1, and therefore losing the "fun" factor, but I'm actually quite happy with the amount of bass in this. They're definitely there, but not heavy by any means, and are quite balanced and elevated. It's almost good enough for me when listening to EDM or trance music. MUCH better fun sounding than the safe HD558 for sure. Having said, I don't see myself regretting not getting the X1 on the bass department, but still do in a few other regards (who knows, I might be wrong)

Comfort wise, this is perfect and is probably as good as I can see it go. Headband is pretty much perfect. Only complain I have is how the earpads are inserting quite some pressure, especially at the top part of the head (I assume this will be rectified with repeated use, hopefully?)

I've also had the chance to try them with an E10 and E12 (friend's). I saw a lot of posts of how the E10 is bad match with the K712, but man, I think I might have to disagree with that. The E10 made things brighter and improved the bass, and might just be my current go-to for music and movies for now.

Overall, first impressions with the sound quality is quite good. AKG's sound is definitely different to what I am used to. I really enjoy the clarity and the "realistic" feeling out of these though. Another additional con when hearing this was how I felt some of the sounds were kind of "staying back" (not really sure how to say this). Having said that, I'm not too sure if whether these are a keeper, I probably will have to listen to these further before deciding to keep these.

I'm also almost thinking whether closed headphones are actually better for me at the moment, even for overall and gaming use. I had the chance to demo the Momentum on a nearby store, and I loved what I heard out of these, making me believe the overall nature of closed headphones might be the reason behind it.

Nice! Glad you like them! IMO, they will scale better with more power. Everything opens up with better equipment with this headphone

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Originally Posted by vizzle View Post

@RXShadow nice, could you write more about x1 vs k712 please? I am thinking to change x1 for k712 at the moment....what I need from x1 is -2 3dB on bass and better highs

I do not have the K712 but I do have a pair of Annie to compare with the X1;

X1 is darker in comparison, not as transparent and accurate as Annie
X1 got the bass quantity and goes deeper than Annie but quality wise, I prefer the Annie better
Soundstage is slightly better on the Annie
Midrange of X1 feels a little drowned out to me

Keep in mind that, I have not listen to the X1 for awhile now smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Nada190 View Post

Woo hoo just got my K712's! I hate how long AKG's take to burn in...
Did you listen to them yet???
Things "opened up" with time, but I thought they sounded quite good when I first got them (Used, but used little).

Just got a new cable from Zombie_ZX, I've never compared cables before but it sounds great, physically it's nicer in a few ways than stock (though sleeved in black, personally I like a little color but black isn't bad). I'm not sure if it's the cable or the tube I'm using ATM, but I've never heard Wilco's music more crisply, staggered by the detail & transparency (this after spending most of July's head time trying out the DT880). Instant musical-pleasure shivers!
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Won't even get into the burn in debate. Just enjoy the K712...
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I am very much enjoying them, hope my K240's don't start collecting dust though, love those too. 

 

Are the pads on the K712 removal? If so how do I go about doing that? They are not as easy as the K240's. 

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It's a simple operation really, just rotate counter clockwise gently.  I would make sure to grip them towards the base as you don't want to stretch or tear the fabric.  Be aware that once they are off the driver is VERY exposed. 

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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post


Nice! Glad you like them! IMO, they will scale better with more power. Everything opens up with better equipment with this headphone
I do not have the K712 but I do have a pair of Annie to compare with the X1;

X1 is darker in comparison, not as transparent and accurate as Annie
X1 got the bass quantity and goes deeper than Annie but quality wise, I prefer the Annie better
Soundstage is slightly better on the Annie
Midrange of X1 feels a little drowned out to me

Keep in mind that, I have not listen to the X1 for awhile now smily_headphones1.gif

 

Well it is what I feel coming from k702 to x1...at first I was like wow...then I was like ok lets go to something else...

 

BTW all I was asking in k702 was more bass....now annie or k712?

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They are basically the same. The new Annies use the same pads as the K712, so I'm willing to bet an A/B comparison of those two will be very much similar. Having compared a Q701 to an Annie, and having used the K712 let me know they're both basically the same as the Q701, minor driver variation, and pad differences aside. You can literally buy the K712 pads for the Q701 and get 99% the same sound.

GET whichever is cheapest. The biggest difference between the Annie and K712 is only if you find an OLD Annie which jad different pads from the K712, and made the sound warmer and more intimate.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/8/14 at 10:46pm
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+1! Get whichever that is cheaper to you.

Personally,
I'm Olaf and I like warm SOUND biggrin.gif
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My problem is solved.The answer was on frequency response test.Now I can enjoy music.

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

GET whichever is cheapest. The biggest difference between the Annie and K712 is only if you find an OLD Annie which jad different pads from the K712, and made the sound warmer and more intimate.

 

Thank you, well I think k712 are cheaper then Annie so will wait for them...meanwhile will check HD650 hope they will be not disappointing after k702 and X1

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Having compared a Q701 to an Annie, and having compared a Q701 with the K712 let me know they're both basically the same as the Q701, minor driver variation, and pad differejces aside.
When did you compare Q701 to K712?
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Hmm, I never experienced the burn-in for headphones before. The K712's sounded great as soon as I put them on.

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

When did you compare Q701 to K712?


edit: I apologize, it was when I had the Anniversary that I had his Q701, not the K712. I mistook the K612 for the Q701. So many damn A/B comparisons done, and it doesn't help that they all look essentially the same.

That being said, the Annie being a very special headphone to me, everything I loved from it was right there witb the K712, other than the pad differences making the K712 airier and less intimate. I still believe it's the pad and slight driver variation being the sole differences between them.

I know you have/had both. Can you clarify just how close the Q701 sounds to the K712 when swapping pads? I'm stupid. Could've easily just asked you how close you think they are.

I attribute driver variation being very important, because I at one point had 3 DT990 600ohm cans (as well as 32ohm and 250ohm to compare), and they 600ohm 990s sounded slightly different from one another. No two headphones are exactly the same, even amongst the same exact model. So I take slight variation into account, and not driver changes.


I was at one time defending the Annie as being different from the Q701. Which it is. But that differences was the pads. I feel it's the same thing with the K712.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/8/14 at 10:54pm
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I'll take some time and compare again. I know Chico said the pads were everything, and in the past I said I could hear the drivers tuned different even when I use the same pad on either, but at the least I can tell if it's the pad wear once and for all that made my used Q701's more bassy than my also used but relatively newer K712 (I just had a third person try them, he also agrees the Q701 is also the bassier one).
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