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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

To present proper evaluated impressions one must listen to it in users environment. Meet impressions generally carry zilch informative or realistic impressions because of a different environment, different demo music, unwanted background noise and very limited headtime. Meet impressions give you an idea but don't treat it as the end be all gathered data/opinion for anything. The HD800's is finicky with amplification most of which can balance the treble, excessive a bit strong to use as it's not much of a boost. Treble is not the only aspect of sound to give the amount of perceived detail. The is also the rabidog(anax) mod that fixes the 6k boost now you're thinking why mod a 1.5k headphone shouldn't it be perfect? Answer is simple as everything headphone has flaws with the 009 extremely close to neutral perfect but at a 3x asking price of a regular HD800. Apart from the treble the HD800's has the least amount of flaws if you look at its objective side, FR, CSD plot and sweeps. But even the most perfect measuring flat 20hz/20khz neutral headphone cannot satisfy every user, we all have our own taste.

That is true, headphones shouldn't be listened to briefly or in a noisy environment. I've never been to a headphone meet and my impressions are from extended use on different days over time in a quiet environment. The problem with the treble being flawed is that the treble is often what causes problems for people such as fatigue, annoyance, ear irritation, etc. on headphones, problems with the treble are sort of a big deal. When a headphone is smooth and linear except in the treble, this makes the treble issues more obvious. I've heard this with many headphones. It all comes down to taste as well, graphs tell you only part of the story, they can be a good reference but not always.
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post

Doesn't tube usually add color? 

Depends on the amp and the tubes, but the ones I heard were colored on the darker and warmer side to help combat the HD 800s coloration of being bright and cold in attempt to make the headphone more neutral.
Edited by kman1211 - 3/4/14 at 3:00am
post #2673 of 3450
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My K712 headband adjustment creaks like crazy. If I chew anything, turn my head, look down, or whatever, I get a very annoying series of creaks. Does anyone else have this problem, and is there a known solution? Thanks.





Honestly, I don't think it's the headband - it's the ball-and-socket joint on the cups that makes the noise.  The original K701 used a shiny plastic that seemed slicker - maybe it was the chrome ring?



 



Hey Beezarman, you were right. It IS the joint on the cups. Since you knew better than me what was causing the noise, maybe you know better than me how to make it stop smily_headphones1.gif
post #2674 of 3450
So...is this a poor man's HD800?
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Is the sound anywhere near as holographic as the HD800?
post #2676 of 3450
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So...is this a poor man's HD800?


No as the sound signature is quite different. The K712 is on the darker and warmer side, the HD 800 is cold and bright. The K701 is more similar to the HD 800 than the K712, the HD 800 is still quite different than the K701 though. It's a bit holographic sounding, but not like how the HD 800 is.

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So...is this a poor man's HD800?

In my opinion, it's a fairly poor comparison for the AKG. I would agree it hits above its weight, but the HD 800 is simply in another class.

post #2678 of 3450
I've come to consider the AKG712 as highly as my HD-800 and Beyer T1. (I wonder how much of the 712 made it into the 812?)
post #2679 of 3450
Tyll was disappointed by the SQ of K812 @.@
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Originally Posted by Mambosenior View Post

I've come to consider the AKG712 as highly as my HD-800 and Beyer T1. (I wonder how much of the 712 made it into the 812?)


I found the K812 above the K712 in sound quality and better than the HD 800 and T1.

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Just got these headphones yesterday... Best I've heard so far. (Driving them out of a lowly Marantz NR1403... There's audible hiss set at 95db+, which is about 20 notches more than I would ever listen.)

I tried the K701 a few years ago, but disliked the weird plasticky sound that made me feel like I was listening through a straw. The K712 is pretty close to perfection, IMO. Does anyone want to buy some HD650's with a bit of paint missing?
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Just got these headphones yesterday... Best I've heard so far. (Driving them out of a lowly Marantz NR1403... There's audible hiss set at 95db+, which is about 20 notches more than I would ever listen.)

I tried the K701 a few years ago, but disliked the weird plasticky sound that made me feel like I was listening through a straw. The K712 is pretty close to perfection, IMO. Does anyone want to buy some HD650's with a bit of paint missing?

Good to hear that!

I believe plenty are looking for it at FS section smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by riverlethe View Post

Just got these headphones yesterday... Best I've heard so far. (Driving them out of a lowly Marantz NR1403... There's audible hiss set at 95db+, which is about 20 notches more than I would ever listen.)

I tried the K701 a few years ago, but disliked the weird plasticky sound that made me feel like I was listening through a straw. The K712 is pretty close to perfection, IMO. Does anyone want to buy some HD650's with a bit of paint missing?

Congrats!

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I found the HD800 much more coherent and dynamic than the K812.  The K712 Pro is still a great headphone and I would prefer it to the odd sounding and extremely overpriced K812.

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Think of the K812 pro as a poor mans alternative HD800. Similar sound and not finicky with amplification and easy to drive with it's low z. The HD800 is another class once you spend the effort to buy a complmenting amp and source. Not cheap. Though the Matrix Mstage is claimed to be really good with the HD800's.

Throwing random tube amplification at the HD800 will also not do any good. Very similar to the Stax O2.
Edited by DefQon - 3/5/14 at 3:23pm
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