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post #2641 of 3612

To me this has been covered in the reviews for the K712 Pro, but I will summarize here for you.

 

The K712 Pro is an upgrade in every way to the K701.

post #2642 of 3612
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post
 

as a former k701 Lover i wonder if the k712 might be a serious upgrade and hope you guys can help.

 

as i know both do have different Sound signatures, i wonder if the k712 is still technically better. by that i mean especially in the following regards:

 

- sepraration

- pin Point accuracy in Instrument Placement

- Resolution

 

last question: will the bass besides beeing more emphasized still be as nicely dry as it is on the k701?

 

IMO the K712 is definitively better.  The K701 was one of my first headphones which I owned for quite a long time.  While certain things about it I loved, it also had glaring flaws that kept me from really wanting to love the whole headphone.  It's hard for me to compare the separation and imaging accuracy, being that my current front end is much more advanced in this regard than when I owned the K701 but I would guess the K701 would still be slightly better in this regard with the right equipment, though in my current setup the K712 is better by memory than old setup at the time. (Lyr +Audio-GD Sabre DAC)

 

The biggest improvement to me with the K712 is the far more natural tonal balance and with the improved efficiency, especially in the bass, it's much harder to hit the massive bass distortion wall caused by overdriving the meager 200mw driver.  That was honestly my biggest annoyance with the K701.  Anytime I would crank it for fun music, it just goes *splat splat* in the bass.  This is not so much the case with the K712.  You would really have to drive it to deafening levels to start reaching that point.

post #2643 of 3612
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Originally Posted by NA Blur View Post
 

To me this has been covered in the reviews for the K712 Pro, but I will summarize here for you.

 

The K712 Pro is an upgrade in every way to the K701

I have the Q701's and the K712 and have been using the K712 for several months.  It's an improvement in every way.  Of course there's a strong family resemblance, but the K712's seem to have improved on the earlier phones in every way.  The bass is better, they're less tizzy and a little less peaky, and they are considerably more comfortable to wear.

post #2644 of 3612

short update: yesterday i had a brief listen to the k702 and the k712. to my ears i would sum it up this way:

 

- k712 much warmer sounding

- k712 has especially an emphasis in the upper bass, which tends to bleed into the mids

- k712 bass is not as fast sounding and sometimes in big orchestral Music it was borderline boomy, and overshadows Details

- k712 has a narrower soundstage and more of a headphone soundstage with less depth

- k712 has smoother highs and upper mids

- k712 sounds slightly more natural and realistic over all

- k712 is no upgrade regarding: speed, soundstage, Detail, Imaging

 

so in my books it is a mixed bag. i preffer the more open and brighter Sound signature of the k702. would like to get the the smoother upper midrange and highs of the k712 but the less impressive soundstage and somewhat loose bass is too much of a trade of for me. so i went with the k702 and would have done so, even if both were similar priced.

post #2645 of 3612
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post
 

short update: yesterday i had a brief listen to the k702 and the k712. to my ears i would sum it up this way:

 

- k712 much warmer sounding

- k712 has especially an emphasis in the upper bass, which tends to bleed into the mids

- k712 bass is not as fast sounding and sometimes in big orchestral Music it was borderline boomy, and overshadows Details

- k712 has a narrower soundstage and more of a headphone soundstage with less depth

- k712 has smoother highs and upper mids

- k712 sounds slightly more natural and realistic over all

- k712 is no upgrade regarding: speed, soundstage, Detail, Imaging

 

so in my books it is a mixed bag. i preffer the more open and brighter Sound signature of the k702. would like to get the the smoother upper midrange and highs of the k712 but the less impressive soundstage and somewhat loose bass is too much of a trade of for me. so i went with the k702 and would have done so, even if both were similar priced.

These are pretty much the same impressions I had. The are different vs one being better than the other. My preferences run with yours, I believe. I prefer the more open and exciting signature.

post #2646 of 3612
just to make sure: i am talking about the standard k702 and not the annie, you listed in your signature.
post #2647 of 3612
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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

just to make sure: i am talking about the standard k702 and not the annie, you listed in your signature.

Yup. I had the standard K702. Sold it and bought the Annie. Missed the original signature and installed the older pads which brought back the original signature. The K712 I had for about a week, I sold almost immediately because, in my opinion, the signature was exactly the same.

post #2648 of 3612

Hey all,

 

Are these headphones worth $330? I currently have the standard K702 but hate, HATE the brightness. Getting it mainly for rock and video games.


Edited by BetaWolf - 2/25/14 at 3:55am
post #2649 of 3612
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Originally Posted by MrPanda View Post
 

I have the Q701's and the K712 and have been using the K712 for several months.  It's an improvement in every way.  Of course there's a strong family resemblance, but the K712's seem to have improved on the earlier phones in every way.  The bass is better, they're less tizzy and a little less peaky, and they are considerably more comfortable to wear.

+1

Very accurate and concise descriptions.

post #2650 of 3612
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Originally Posted by BetaWolf View Post
 

Hey all,

 

Are these headphones worth $330? I currently have the standard K702 but hate, HATE the brightness. Getting it mainly for rock and video games.

 

If you HATE the brightness of the K702 I wouldn't get the K712 or any of the K7xx's because they're all quite similar. My recommendation would be the HD600 or HD650.

post #2651 of 3612
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Originally Posted by devhen View Post
 

 

If you HATE the brightness of the K702 I wouldn't get the K712 or any of the K7xx's because they're all quite similar. My recommendation would be the HD600 or HD650.

+1 :beerchug:

post #2652 of 3612
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Originally Posted by devhen View Post
 

 

If you HATE the brightness of the K702 I wouldn't get the K712 or any of the K7xx's because they're all quite similar. My recommendation would be the HD600 or HD650.


The K712 does sound less bright.  I am sensitive to bright headphones and love the K712 Pro, but it may depend on what music you tend to listen to most of the time.  For example rock will be quite fatiguing with the K712 Pro over the HD600.

post #2653 of 3612

Yeah and its probably a little different for everyone. Most people would probably consider the DT880 to be even brighter than the K7xx yet for me they are much less fatiguing. The K712 isn't overly fatiguing but it does start to bother me whenever I use it for multiple hours.

post #2654 of 3612

And just to articulate what is being said, if you absolutely hate the brightness of the K702 and are thinking the K712 is going to resolve that issue, there's a very good chance that it will not as the current signature is very much of the same type, but with some evolution. I would, again, echo devhen's recommendation of the HD 600 at that point.

post #2655 of 3612

Thanks, everyone! I didn't expect to get that much help! As luck may have it, HD6xx was my second choice. I did not like the bright treble on the K702, and that being my main problem with the cans.

 

Oddly enough, I've heard DT880 25 Ohm, and I really thought that the K702 was brighter. My friend, the owner of the DT880, echoed my sentiment with the treble.

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