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Neutrality. Scales better. The treble is in-offensive. No upper mid peaks. Cheaper. 

I wouldn't say the HD700 is worse or better than the K712, just not worth the MSRP by far. And definitely not for young sensitive ears. 

You should look into modding the K712, they open quite nicely, and the vocals are some of the most accurate I've heard for the price range.


I have to agree personally. I found that with the HD 700, the treble was too much for me to bear given I have young sensitive ears, the HD 800 I heard bothered me even more in the treble than the HD 700 as I found it even brighter.

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I have to agree personally. I found that with the HD 700, the treble was too much for me to bear given I have young sensitive ears, the HD 800 I heard bothered me even more in the treble than the HD 700 as I found it even brighter.

Thank you for your input. It's quite true though. I couldn't really listen to electronica or trance on the HD700s on certain tracks. The treble just really distracted me from enjoying the music.  

But of course, I did enjoy them overall. So this isn't meant to detract or put them down at all :)

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Thank you for your input. It's quite true though. I couldn't really listen to electronica or trance on the HD700s on certain tracks. The treble just really distracted me from enjoying the music.  

But of course, I did enjoy them overall. So this isn't meant to detract or put them down at all :)


Yeah, I find many headphones too bright. I listen to about 50-60% electronic genres, so if something is too bright I know right away. I settled with the K612(basically a flat and neutral K7 series) until I can save enough money for something like the LCD-2 or maybe the K812 or LCD-X. I did like the HD 700 overall, it's treble was just too bothersome for the wide variety of genres I listen to, I just don't have a genre taste limited enough to appreciate them.

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Yeah, I find many headphones too bright. I listen to about 50-60% electronic genres, so if something is too bright I know right away. I settled with the K612(basically a flat and neutral K7 series) until I can save enough money for something like the LCD-2 or maybe the K812 or LCD-X. I did like the HD 700 overall, it's treble was just too bothersome for the wide variety of genres I listen to, I just don't have a genre taste limited enough to appreciate them.

The K612 actually is a killer deal. The improved headband, and how they actually sound fuller than the K701/K702 makes them a hell of a value. I tried the Q701, didn't like them at all. There was a noticeable shift away from neutrality towards more a mainstream mid-bass hump. 

So that being said, I did like the K601, and still find them a fantastic deal for almost half of the price of the K712s. 

Cheers!

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Would you please elaborate about the difference sbetween 601 and 612 ?

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The K612 actually is a killer deal. The improved headband, and how they actually sound fuller than the K701/K702 makes them a hell of a value. I tried the Q701, didn't like them at all. There was a noticeable shift away from neutrality towards more a mainstream mid-bass hump. 
So that being said, I did like the K601, and still find them a fantastic deal for almost half of the price of the K712s. 
Cheers!

I actually wouldn't of gotten the K612 if my friend didn't get me them as a gift, so I have to thank her for choosing the ideal headphone for my preference and system. They actually satisfied me and I'm not really wanting another headphone, my forward and aggressive hybrid amp makes them physical and full bodied without harshness. I had issues with the Q701 too, mainly being upper midrange glare and the phantom center stage issue that pops up from time to time. I do kind of want to get the K712 because they are my schools colors, I just don't think I will grow to like them quite as much as the K612 after auditioning the K712.
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No mods. I've got a stock K712 that I've had for a while and know quite well and the HD700 I only had for a week so take it with a grain of salt. I didn't do particularly extensive tests between the two but to my ears I didn't hear anything about the HD700 that was inferior to the K712 aside from its treble issue.



 



In what aspects do you think the K712 beats the HD700?



 



Cheers





Neutrality. Scales better. The treble is in-offensive. No upper mid peaks. Cheaper. 



I wouldn't say the HD700 is worse or better than the K712, just not worth the MSRP by far. And definitely not for young sensitive ears. 



You should look into modding the K712, they open quite nicely, and the vocals are some of the most accurate I've heard for the price range.


 


Do you have a link detailing the modification procedures for a K712?
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No mods. I've got a stock K712 that I've had for a while and know quite well and the HD700 I only had for a week so take it with a grain of salt. I didn't do particularly extensive tests between the two but to my ears I didn't hear anything about the HD700 that was inferior to the K712 aside from its treble issue.

 

 

 

In what aspects do you think the K712 beats the HD700?

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Neutrality. Scales better. The treble is in-offensive. No upper mid peaks. Cheaper. 

 

I wouldn't say the HD700 is worse or better than the K712, just not worth the MSRP by far. And definitely not for young sensitive ears. 

 

You should look into modding the K712, they open quite nicely, and the vocals are some of the most accurate I've heard for the price range.

 


Do you have a link detailing the modification procedures for a K712?

There's quite a few threads already dealing with this. 

The K712 is based off the same housing/design as the previous models. 

Basic layout with foam donuts underneath the ear-pads/baffle, and the same configuration/dampening used on the drivers themselves and the bass port. 

Modifications is simple, just depends on how far you want to take them. 

post #2604 of 3076
Annies are bright? You just hear everything on Headfi... even things that are completely the opposite of what most people experience...

Just because there is a slight peak somewhere doesn't make a headphone bright (I hear a pretty noticeable peak in the Mad Dogs, and I would never say its bright). Pretty certain most of us are in agreement that the Annie is a warm headphone, with a softer, smoother treble, and intimate signature. Bright would suggest dry, and mostly treble oriented, and not particularly full bodied. The Annie neither dry, treble oriented, or even slightly lean in body. It's thick, smooth, softer, and overall full bodied. Peak here or there, sure, but overall, not at all.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/1/14 at 6:53am
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Yes, it's contradictions everywhere you look. I'm not even being sarcastic.
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I mean, the only headphone I've heard that is hard to describe as warm or bright, dark or cold is the HE-400. It has an identity crisis of being very full bodied and warm up to it's upper mids which then becomes quite lean, and then jumps up considerably to an incredibly prominent treble response. It's literally both dark and bright... both full bodied and thin...
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But never cold :)

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Definitely not, lol.
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The HE-400 was indeed a surprise signature, ultimately I wouldn't buy it because I really missed the mids, buuuut there were pleasing qualities about it, and I could've eventually gotten used to it's deficiencies while enjoying it's strengths. Games and movies, but I'd boost dialogue, and probably not use it for acoustic "unplugged" music.

I want to compare my K712 to the K612, but I'm not trying to collect so I ought to pass along my Q701.
Edited by Evshrug - 2/1/14 at 10:57am
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The HD700 is nowhere near superior to the K712 in almost every way.

Except that it is in every which way. I've owned or had extensive testing with with practically every variation of the K701 (including it's newest clone iteration) and, as much as I still love them, they are inferior in ever aspect. Sound. Comfort. Value as well.

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