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post #181 of 3352
Anyone who understands the language get anything new or interesting from this?
post #182 of 3352

I think this whole Anniversary / K712 thing is so lopsided. I feel like anniversaries should have come with that extra cable and carry bag especially when considering their high price. The K712 would be then stripped down more affordable mass production version of the anniversary.

post #183 of 3352
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

I think this whole Anniversary / K712 thing is so lopsided. I feel like anniversaries should have come with that extra cable and carry bag especially when considering their high price. The K712 would be then stripped down more affordable mass production version of the anniversary.

I do agree with you there. The packaged accessories and documentation with the Annie is light, to say the least.
post #184 of 3352
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I do agree with you there. The packaged accessories and documentation with the Annie is light, to say the least.

 

Yes indeed. Don't get me wrong I love my anniversaries but somehow I feel like being dipped in the a s s by AKG.

post #185 of 3352
For an Anniversary Edition, they surely didn't give any goodies except the damn booklet. That was indeed disappointing.
post #186 of 3352
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Those must be the "Specially hand picked drivers" used on the Anniversary. Lol.

 

How about the term: "hand-crafted in Austria" ? This is what they used in their product description on their website..

I saw this a while ago and I must admit, I didnt really like it... Im no expert in headphone production, but this doesnt look like a Reference Headphone being produced.
This is the actual assembly of a K702.. watch!

 
Another thing... I read a thousand times about how much better the pads of the Annies are. Its interesting because this thread comes at exactly the right time. I am actually considering ordering new pads for my K701s. Do you think its possible to order the K702 Annie pads instead? I guess this will really have an effect on the sound..
post #187 of 3352
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

Anyone who understands the language get anything new or interesting from this?

No, not with regards to the 712. They just prattled on about the headband, and the fact that it uses a removable mini XLR cable. They spent a bit more time with the 612 which they describe as an entry level model, uses similar tech to the 7xx series, and will be priced at around 189 euros. Other than that it was just a regurgitation of marketing stuff that's already known. There was nothing technical at all.
post #188 of 3352
I didn't find much wrong with that How It's Made clip, what turned you off about it? Some parts are precision crafted by a machine but the whole thing is ultimately assembled and tested by a human... Pretty sure a machine can do things like stamping and winding a lot more consistently! Curiously, the 702's construction looks a lot more complicated than something like the HD600 (which you can take apart into bits in like half a dozen steps). Hadn't seen a 7xx assembled like that before, it's pretty interesting IMO, thanks for linking it.

The Annie thread is full of info about how to order the pads btw, think they're about $75.
Edited by Impulse - 4/12/13 at 4:49am
post #189 of 3352
I see that vid years ago, and it's one of the things I like about the AKGs, they are pretty well made. This is a large reason why the drivers have been so consistent. They literally have a guy sit there and match the drivers. I would prefer them doing that than some machine. Let's not forget how horribly varied Beyerdynamic is with their headphones. You don't know what flavor you're gonna get with them.
post #190 of 3352
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Originally Posted by Impulse View Post

I didn't find much wrong with that How It's Made clip, what turned you off about it? Some parts are precision crafted by a machine but the whole thing is ultimately assembled and tested by a human... Pretty sure a machine can do things like stamping and winding a lot more consistently! Curiously, the 702's construction looks a lot more complicated than something like the HD600 (which you can take apart into bits in like half a dozen steps). Hadn't seen a 7xx assembled like that before, it's pretty interesting IMO, thanks for linking it.

The Annie thread is full of info about how to order the pads btw, think they're about $75.

 

Thanks for the info about the Annie pads..

 

Well, just to make something clear. I wasnt exactly turned off by the automated process. Of course you need machines to make the diaphragm, to make the voice coil and to mould the earcups.. but i didnt like the way those parts were later treated and just stacked together in huge quantities and thrown around by the machines. It really gave me the sense that they are mass produced on a huge scale.
 

I knew this video would be interesting wink_face.gif, Im surprised no one has picked it up before (never seen it on head-fi).

Also, I know the plastic feels different on the K701 from the rest of the K7xx series, but does anyone have an idea if its an entirely different plastic used, or just has a different texture. I suspect if its different, this might also have an effect on the perceived differences.

post #191 of 3352
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

This is a large reason why the drivers have been so consistent. They literally have a guy sit there and match the drivers. I would prefer them doing that than some machine.

 

I imagine a computer to be more adept at matching response plots or whatever the technical criteria are.

 

Though maybe a human could match the leftover drivers.


Edited by vid - 4/12/13 at 5:08am
post #192 of 3352
You would think so, bit yet again, there are so many inconsistent headphones in terms of matchi g drivers and frequency response, and I have no doubt it's because there isnt a person there to make sure the graphs and drivers arent to spec. I have neber heard of a bad K70x in terms of its frequency response, or drivers not matching.
post #193 of 3352

Some human supervision would be needed, for sure.

 

I complained about this topic in another thread recently. I have a few AKGs from the late '70s and early '80s and a Sennheiser from the late '80s - all mid-fi in their time - that nonetheless have absolute precision-matched drivers. I don't quite approve that today we need an expensive special edition to get what seems to have been normal on an affordable average edition decades ago.

post #194 of 3352
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Anyone who understands the language get anything new or interesting from this?
 

 

Nothing new... the only thing he confirms is that it's 100% handcrafted in Austria.  No mention of the price, nor of the most interesting (in my opinion) part of the official anouncement that says "Their precise powerful sound results from improved low-end performance by 3dB..."

 

I am very curious to read the first reviews, because if the low-end gain is really perceivable, it will make the 712 Pro an almos perfect phone for my taste.

post #195 of 3352

Interesting but the price from what I've seen is mad.gif

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