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post #1696 of 4870
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

^ I like how you are satisfied with your headphones. just note the following:

he400 notoriously fatiguing.

he-500 not

 

Most new reference hp's are mentioned among the summit fi. Because you pay alot more for little improvemtn

Agreed here, the HE-500 is much better sounding and measures better than the HE-400.  The velour pads make a big improvement on the HE-400.

 

 

post #1697 of 4870
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Originally Posted by Kouzelna View Post

Beautiful photos. Really stunning. In the spirit, can anyone get some photos of a set of the K 712 on, let's say, an ox? Or perhaps an elephant?
 

Thank you, I needed a good laugh :)

post #1698 of 4870
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Originally Posted by NA Blur View Post
 

I already gave an objective comparison within this thread.  I supplied the measurements for comparison, how much more objective do you want.

 

Secondly, you did not supply examples of what tracks or music you are basing your claims on.  You supplied gear, although not specific to what gear you actually hear these differences.

 

I would like understand where you are coming from, but without specific examples I cannot do the comparison myself.

 

Did you get a chance to compare a K712 next to a HE-500

post #1699 of 4870
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

As noted previously I added the HE-500 Vs. the AKG K712 Pro to my review here at head-fi.  I currently have both plugged into my BUDA and an LCD-3 at hand for a sanity check.

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I'm very happy I don't have a HExxx at this point.

 

Glad to hear the K712 are great with classical.  My bad, sorry.  Either I got something funky from the original review, or I simply read it too fast on my micro-phone's tiny screen.

 

Still waiting for responses on whether the K712 is really worth DOUBLE the price of a standard K702 / Q701.

 

Keep in mind that my monthly - I say MONTHLY - salary is $400.  That's for full-time work, where I live.  BTW.

 

Min. wage is low here.  I.e., there ain't any.

 

(Still running it with a Glow ... either way... )

post #1701 of 4870

In my review I mention that a poor-mans version of the K712 Pro is a Q701 with the K712 Pro pads.  It is unclear at this time whether the K712 Pro pads can be purchased separately.  This combo is not exactly the same as the K712 Pro stock because the sound of both is different without any pads, but it is quite close.

 

The pads may run up to $70 for the pair so adding in the price of the Q701 it may be $50 savings in the end as the price of the K712 Pro settles around $350 new.

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Originally Posted by NA Blur View Post
 

In my review I mention that a poor-mans version of the K712 Pro is a Q701 with the K712 Pro pads.  It is unclear at this time whether the K712 Pro pads can be purchased separately.  This combo is not exactly the same as the K712 Pro stock because the sound of both is different without any pads, but it is quite close.

 

The pads may run up to $70 for the pair so adding in the price of the Q701 it may be $50 savings in the end as the price of the K712 Pro settles around $350 new.

 

You probably can probably get pretty close to the K712 sound with just the bass port mod on the Q701. No new pads needed.

Too bad nobody has compared them both to see! If I had $400 to blow on a new headphone I'd buy one just for comparisons and get rid of the loser.

 

I'm sure there will be quite a lot who think the modded or even un-modded Q701 is the better headphone (for them). I've only tried the "Anniversary" though.

The modded (and stock) Q701 is far better than the Annie ever was IMO. I got that fuller sound and better bass from the mod without losing much else.

 

It would really be interesting to know if theres any out there who disliked the Annie and loves the K712. Maybe i'll be the first?

 

If I bought a K712 first thing I'd do is buy new Q701 pads and open the bass port. No kidding :normal_smile : Well maybe after a week of testing it stock.

 

Wish I was made of money..perfectly happy with the modded Q701 though and only curious about the K712.


Edited by tdockweiler - 9/27/13 at 4:41pm
post #1703 of 4870
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Originally Posted by NA Blur View Post
 

In my review I mention that a poor-mans version of the K712 Pro is a Q701 with the K712 Pro pads.  It is unclear at this time whether the K712 Pro pads can be purchased separately.  This combo is not exactly the same as the K712 Pro stock because the sound of both is different without any pads, but it is quite close.

 

The pads may run up to $70 for the pair so adding in the price of the Q701 it may be $50 savings in the end as the price of the K712 Pro settles around $350 new.

 

I was thinking about that option too when I heard it mentioned by others... but then I find out the pads cost that much... lol

Add in possible cost for headband replacement since so many people seem to hate the bumps... it'll cost the same as a K712 >.>

 

Can anyone here compare this to the Philips Fidelio X1?

Those have been compared to the K70x series a lot in its thread.

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Um, consider me the man who lives on the moon, but where on earth do I get my Q701 modded? And what problems does it address or and or solve?
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Originally Posted by Kouzelna View Post

Um, consider me the man who lives on the moon, but where on earth do I get my Q701 modded? And what problems does it address or and or solve?

 

It's this mod here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/660408/reversible-akg-k701-bass-mod

 

There's tons of posts on it in the Q701 thread if you look around.

I'm going on two weeks now I think with it installed.

 

With it I can now probably live without my HD-650.

post #1706 of 4870
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Originally Posted by NA Blur View Post
 

I already gave an objective comparison within this thread.  I supplied the measurements for comparison, how much more objective do you want.

 

Secondly, you did not supply examples of what tracks or music you are basing your claims on.  You supplied gear, although not specific to what gear you actually hear these differences.

 

I would like understand where you are coming from, but without specific examples I cannot do the comparison myself.

 

For the physical feel/impact of the bass in HE500 vs K712, I don't need to give any specific examples but if you insist, then here's is one : Radiohead's Little by Little (Caribou RMX).  Match your volume on HE500 and K712, listen to that track.  Then come back and let me know which HPs let you feel the bass/drum/LF more on your ear drums.  Rememer that we are not talking about volume/amount here.

 

Btw, I am done.  Enjoy your K712.  It's the best since sliced bread.

 

Unsub...


Edited by koiloco - 9/27/13 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

 

For the physical feel/impact of the bass in HE500 vs K712, I don't need to give any specific examples but if you insist, then here's is one : Radiohead's Little by Little (Caribou RMX).  Match your volume on HE500 and K712, listen to that track.  Then come back and let me know which HPs let you feel the bass/drum/LF more on your ear drums.  Rememer that we are not talking about volume/amount here.

 

Btw, I am done.  Enjoy your K712.  It's the best since sliced bread.

 

Unsub...

 

I hear ya man. I appreciated your post and it made perfect sense to me and I didn't think it was something that required specific examples either. I find it very hard to believe that the K712 is better than the HE500 in every possible way and I take with a grain of salt any impressions from people who have a hard time admitting a particular headphone has any weaknesses. There's a word for that, its called biased. It means you love your headphones a little too much to the point that you're blind to anything it might not do so well or any way in which it doesn't stack up well to its competition. Lets hope I love the K712s so much when they arrive tomorrow that I become biased as well. :D

 

Still waiting for my chance to hear the HE500, I'm sure they're spectacular and surely there are some ways in which its ortho drivers are superior to its dynamic competitors. For now I'll just have to trust the impressions I'm reading. Thanks for yours.


Edited by devhen - 9/27/13 at 10:35pm
post #1708 of 4870
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

^yes but the k712 sounded less sharp and more natural... less metallic to the reviewer.

 

thanks for the info! 

post #1709 of 4870

Anyway, I think what I was saying in my previous post brings up a good topic and I didn't mean to deride anyone in particular but there are so many aspects to a headphone and so many of those are really subjective so when someone says one headphone is better than another in every way I'm very skeptical unless you're talking about headphones that are in completely different leagues from one another. What makes it difficult for me personally is that I'm yet to hear any orthos for myself but if there were no sonic benefits from orthodynamic drivers over dynamic drivers then why would you go to the trouble of manufacturing such a heavier and more costly driver? And if there are potential overall sonic improvements surely those aspects would apply in comparison to the K712 just like any other dynamic headphone (HD800, T1, mid-fi cans, budget cans, etc). Just thinking out loud here. I do hope the K712s are as good as some are saying they are. I would have no problem with that! ;)


Edited by devhen - 9/27/13 at 11:21pm
post #1710 of 4870
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Originally Posted by devhen View Post
 

Anyway, I think what I was saying in my previous post brings up a good topic and I didn't mean to deride anyone in particular but there are so many aspects to a headphone and so many of those are really subjective so when someone says one headphone is better than another in every way I'm very skeptical unless you're talking about headphones that are in completely different leagues from one another. What makes it difficult for me personally is that I'm yet to hear any orthos for myself but if there were no sonic benefits from orthodynamic drivers over dynamic drivers then why would you go to the trouble of manufacturing such a heavier and more costly driver? And if there are potential overall sonic improvements surely those aspects would apply in comparison to the K712 just like any other dynamic headphone (HD800, T1, mid-fi cans, budget cans, etc). Just thinking out loud here. I do hope the K712s are as good as some are saying they are. I would have no problem with that! ;)

 

+1

I have some cheap Spider Powerforce hp's that do one or two things better than headphones that cost 500 dollars. Of the grip of hp's I have had I have yet to find one that blows another away in every single aspect. I have had some minor orthos too. 

 

Each hp has its points.

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