Could you give me the post#, please.
I think Tyll should measure them as their graph should be a little different from the other K70x. I think he should measure a 702, a 701 (recent or Q), and a 712.
K712 pads shouldn't be stiffer than Q701 pads, it should be the opposite.
K712 and Anniversary pads are both memory foam. When you squeeze them they will be slower to return to shape. Q701 uses spring foam which instantly springs back into shape. It's also angled unlike the memory foam pads.
Both memory foam pads share the same part number, and the Q701 and K702 share the same part number for their black spring foam angled pads.
Thx. Somehow I thought it was in this thread, lol.
And no, the bass doesn't get affected much.
You can check the part number of the drivers for yourself, and see if the 712's drives number is the same as the other K70x series.
Although an actual NEW headphone from them would be nice too.
Kinda leaves open the question of what is improvement - in other words, what is the goal.
Q701 sounds pretty neutral to me except for some slight roll off in the low bass. Sounds flatter to me than the HD-600 with it's mid-bass hump and treble roll off.
Maybe people think the K712/Annie is more neutral because it has more warmth and perhaps sounds darker/smoother (sounding) which is way better for crappy music
When I want my headphone to "fix" all my garbage tracks, the HD-650 is awful nice! Actually bad/harsh recordings still sound bad on the HD-650, but much easier on the ears than the Q701.
Actually one headphone that sounds totally smooth with nearly EVERY track is the HD-598. I think maybe due to it's smoother treble and dip in the upper mids (if it really exists).
It's weird how the K601 measures ruler flat but doesn't really sound that way at all...I think it's low mids are maybe more neutral than those of the Q701, but not the upper mids.