Originally Posted by CBF-
An orange ring like the 65 would be fine (although the blue is cooler), but the orange is plastered all over the K712 and it looks like the whole cable is orange aside from the plug.
Plastered all over? Besides the ring, it's on the band stitching (barely noticeable) and then on the metal rods. What's wrong with orange anyway? It's not like it's neon orange, though it's hard to tell from the renders... I think it looks better than any of the Q editions, then again I think the white one is one of the ugliest headphones out there and some people love it. Cable's removable, who cares about that.
AKG keeping mum about pricing isn't very encouraging tho, but we'll see.
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy
To continue: Look at MrSpeaker Mad Dogs. He's had, what, 3 pad swaps now? Each one improving the sound slightly. Are people complaining? No. I guess it's okay when a small business does it, but when a major company like the AKG does it, it's a problem? Yes, we can look at the price premium being a bit ridiculous, but you are paying for more than just a pad swap. You're getting a fully new finish, brand new headband design, and some premium pads over the standard K702. The pads alone are expensive on both the Mad Dogs and Annie/712. The premium is justified.
If AKG sold the Annie as something like a standard K702 with nothing new but a pad swap, then yes, the price hike would be a bit bloated.
Can the price go down? Absolutely, but it's still a legitimate method of improving headphones.
Pads can make or break a headphone, so if you think pads aren't as important to a headphone as the drivers, you need to do your homework.
A premium is justified, but not a 100%+
premium... One thing is what's just and another thing is what the market will bear tho.
Three's enough wiggle room under $400 that they can realistically do whatever they want and milk a higher price point for a year or two. Hopefully the K712 settle down much lower than that, at least in the US. They're hardly the only ones milking a stagnant mid-fi market tho, Senn's gotten away with the 600/650 enforced pricing because of the same market conditions, AFAIK those models were as cheap as Beyer's 880/990 at one point.
I don't blame AKG for rebranding the 7xx line half a dozen times, specially when there were significant changes like the pads... Beyer and Senn have made a ton of subtle changes to the HD600/650 & DT880/990 over time and it's impossible to identify then unless you open them up or know what year they were made in... That's not
any more consumer friendly tbh. Even Hifiman has tweaked the HE-400 drivers like 3x during it's relatively short life!
I do hold it against AKG that it took this long to swap in a cheaper yet more comfortable headband, and I can't rationalize how that's worth a premium after all this time, never mind a color palette swap. They should've just swapped the headband as a rolling change years ago, period.Edited by Impulse - 4/11/13 at 3:18am