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post #31 of 54
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Of the headphones you own, would you care to provide an order of preference and maybe a few words why?

 

Ok, my top 3.

 

1. Stax SR-009

 

+ The most perfect sound and balance.

 

 

If you're just after the best sound from a headphone then you're already there according to consensus. So what's the problem, cash burning a hole in your pocket and you just feel the need to part with it?

 

Become a summit collector then, plenty to occupy your jones and empty your wallet. Start with HE60, 90, vintage and high-end Grados, Taket H2, HE Audio Jades, old Sony woodies, limited edition Ultrasones, high-end planars, bass-heavy K1000 and other and vintage AKGs, limited ATH woodies, the list never ends.

 

Or you could concentrate on component, source, and cable upgrades, and the endless associated tweaks that go with maximizing the sound of the consensually-superior headphone you already have.

 

Or you could just enjoy the music, and concentrate your acquisition efforts in that area (like many of us are). So many avenues to travel in this hobby!

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Edited by grokit - 4/9/13 at 3:30pm
post #32 of 54
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You might also get into budget fi. Now that you have a top end can to escape into(and the experience that comes with climbing the ladder to the top), you can go back and try riding the hype train. You may hear something you like, you may get a barrel of laughs, but you'll be able to keep feeding your addiction and the community would thank you for your impressions

 

I've been listening with headphones for over 30 years, but it was only 2000 when I bought an high end headphone. That headphone was the SR-007mk1. Before then I never spent a lot on headphones because I didn't have the money. The gear I have now was gotten from a 25 year savings plan I had.

I've got one more headphone amp on order which is paid for but once I receive that, I won't be spending much more on headphones or audio equipment.

 

P.S. When I got my iPod, I got with it some apple ear buds. About a year ago I listened to them with my main source and Pico Slim, and those buds sounded a lot better than anyone could imagine. This is why I feel the source is the most important part of any audio equipment.

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http://www.head-fi.org/t/607422/new-jecklin-float-qa/465

 

or http://www.head-fi.org/t/630033/jps-labs-abyss/135#post_9291940  and let everyone know what they are like.


Edited by nick n - 4/9/13 at 7:55pm
post #34 of 54

just curious, what amp(s) and source(s) are you using? 

post #35 of 54

If the price is absolute concrete for those Abyss ortho's, I will seriously kill myself. 

post #36 of 54

OP,

 

You can go down the HE-6 rabbit whole.  It's a very fun ride to find the amp that mates with them the best per your preference.  Lost of audio store visits with HE-6 and speaker tap adapter cable in hand.  Hearing all kinds of amps ranging from 1K up to 10K.  Hearing just how good they can sound, and how different they sound on different amps.

 

Just saying

post #37 of 54

I haven't read all the thread, but I'd suggest the HP1000, one of the best headphones ever.

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I haven't read all the thread, but I'd suggest the HP1000, one of the best headphones ever.

 

HP1000 as in Grado HP1000?, because if that's the one you mean, they're not that easy to come by, and unless you buy locally, you can't listen to them before you buy, and they're pretty expensive when you do find them.

 

As much as i like my HP1000, i still prefer the sound signature of my PS1000. When i read threads like these, i consider myself fortunate to have found headphones that i like to the point that i don't have the urge to upgrade, i can just sit back and listen.

 

Recently, i was lucky enough to have the oportunity to listen to most flagship models form the major brands at the Montreal Hi-Fi show, and although i thought that they all sounded very good, in the end, not being able to afford them all, i had to make a choice. I know that the PS1000 are far from being the most popular here on Head-Fi, but i'm very happy with my choice, and that's what most important.

 

I wish that the OP will be able to realise that it's much less expensive to change our way of thinking regarding constant upgrading, than it is to keep buying more headphones, not to mention, potentially less frustrating too.

 

 

post #39 of 54

PS1000 are awesome! (somewhat).


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 5/6/14 at 7:15pm
post #40 of 54

The HP1000 are still on my to buy list, let alone finding them since I'm in the process of collecting unobtanium's and vintage gem's. HP1k seem to go for around $1900-2500 depending on the condition. But it's probably worth since it is an end all Grado headphone that supposedly bests all other Grado can's ever made.

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The HP1000 are still on my to buy list, let alone finding them since I'm in the process of collecting unobtanium's and vintage gem's. HP1k seem to go for around $1900-2500 depending on the condition. But it's probably worth since it is an end all Grado headphone that supposedly bests all other Grado can's ever made.

 

 

I was lucky enough to get my HP1000 for a song, but $1900-$2500 seems to be the going rate, i bought mine a few years ago, not knowing how rare they were, so i never got into the ''best Grado ever made'' way of thinking. That's why, as good as they sound, i still think that the PS1000 sound better.

 

That being said, if you're able to get your hands on the HP1000, i'm sure you won't be disapointed. Not only that, but you'll probably get your money back and more, if you ever decide to sell them.

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That being said, if you're able to get your hands on the HP1000, i'm sure you won't be disapointed. Not only that, but you'll probably get your money back and more, if you ever decide to sell them.

might like it considering it will be 3rd Grado I've ever listen to the SR-80 and GS1k being the first two.
post #43 of 54
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might like it considering it will be 3rd Grado I've ever listen to the SR-80 and GS1k being the first two.

 

They definately sound different than the SR80 and GS1k.

post #44 of 54

Ah coincidence you have the two Grados I've heard before.

post #45 of 54

I can compare the HP 1000 to some of the Grados I own.

 

I have a vintage RS-1 (one of the very first pairs, with the strange, almost unheard typesetting) and while its drivers are in very good condition and not pink in color, I think it does have the revered, more neutral vintage "John" (Joseph) Grado sound. And I also bought a full aluminum Magnum v4 from Rhydon (who was trying to follow the steps of Joseph Grado for a more neutral and higher resolution Grado). I got those two thinking they would offer a good challenge for my head time to my HP 1000 but they really don't; the HP 1000 still has the upper hand in terms of resolution and neutrality, and if it wasn't only about that, the HP 1000 drivers also have something special about them that is harder to pinpoint, difficult to describe how it translates into the sound.

 

The HP 1000 dynamic driver --made in Japan by a headphone and microphone transducer firm (named Primo) and using some of Joe's specification for at least the voice-coil copper quality and diaphragm compliance (to tighten the bass and adjust overall balance, according to what he said to Stereophile in 1991)-- from what I could read and see about it, come from an age where improving fidelity wasn't yet about:

-enlarging the diameter (Sennheiser HD800, Sony MDR-MA900)

-differential diaphragm thickness (Sennheiser's duofol and AKG's varimotion)

-dual material diaphragm and fancy rigid materials (JVC using wooden and Fostex microfiber domes, Sony bacterial-formed tissues succeeded by liquid crystal polymer film, or Koss titanium plated, Focal, multiplying the layers of the same material, JVC nanotubes, etc. diaphragms)

-increasing the power of the magnet (Sony Qualia 010, Beyerdynamic T1, Fostex TH900)

 

The DH-40 uses regular mylar diaphragms, but it has a "black piston" part on its back (that Joseph called a "rear pressure equalizer" in an Audio [or Stereophile I don't remember which one of the two] magazine interview, also in 1991) which is bonded to the the back of the diaphragm (next to the diaphragm), which modulates its behavior. This carefully tuned mechanically damping piston (vibrating along with the diaphragm) acts like, for example this analogy --a bed placed under a convulsing epileptic person--, to even-out / slow down / absorb / diffuse (I don't know exactly what happens there, but I made a hypothetical explanatory diagram about it) anything erratic or over-excited the diaphragm could/would have produced if the driver wasn't incorporating that black piston on its back.

 

I think this is the element that makes HP 1000 provoke certain reactions (http://www.head-fi.org/t/638900/oh-god-i-just-found-my-grado-hp-1s and http://www.head-fi.org/t/277545/grado-hp1000-just-a-musical-instrument), or make it special to the heart of us HP 1000 lovers. Compared to regular Grados the HP 1000 is objectively more neutral (other Grados and even Magnums are sometimes considered bright and relatively bass humped) and detailed (which I think can be explained by how clean it appears on cumulative spectral decay graphs compared to other Grados and Magnums). Personally (subjectively) I find it better at handling higher volumes (better behaved, the balance is preserved, the highs remain tamed) and less fatiguing to listen to.

 

 

So in conclusion if you are to pick a Grado for your collection, I recommend you the HP 1000 over a vintage RS-1 or a Magnum v4-5. Not only the HP 1000 has better resolution and performs better on graph, their drivers have something (black piston) that makes them structurally, functionally and audibly different, not only from all other Grados/Magnums, but also from most (if not all) of the other dynamic headphones (drivers-wise).


Edited by devouringone3 - 4/25/13 at 4:52pm
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