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post #46 of 52
I ordered the Valab version and got their ES9018 based Dac X10 instead... sounds fine but it's pretty ugly.
post #47 of 52

Watching this thread with interest.  Been contemplating the X9 for awhile now.  Wondering if anyone managed to compare this with the Cambridge Audio DacMagic or the Audio-gd Compass 2.

 

Noticed the X9 now decode DSD64 and of course there's the X10 based on the ES9018.  Still like to try a WM chip since I have nothing in the house with one of those.

post #48 of 52
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Originally Posted by paaj View Post  I ordered the Valab version and got their ES9018 based Dac X10 instead... sounds fine but it's pretty ugly.

 

Doesn't it look like an imitation W4S?

 

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Originally Posted by nimo View Post  Noticed the X9 now decode DSD64 and of course there's the X10 based on the ES9018.  Still like to try a WM chip since I have nothing in the house with one of those.

 

Interesting how everyone's slowly enabling DSD virtualization on these Wolfson chips. I wonder if it's due to Wolfson broadcasting some communique to its customers about enabling it on their chips.

post #49 of 52
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Doesn't it look like an imitation W4S?

 

 

It does from the outside, though slightly smaller than W4S specs. At least it's better looking than the two-tone W4S :) Haven't really compared insides yet, but don't think it's that similar.

 

Too bad you can't rely on actually getting what you order from those cheap asian suppliers. One thing I guess you won't have to think about with the real Rein :)

post #50 of 52
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It does from the outside, though slightly smaller than W4S specs. At least it's better looking than the two-tone W4S :) Haven't really compared insides yet, but don't think it's that similar.

 

Too bad you can't rely on actually getting what you order from those cheap asian suppliers. One thing I guess you won't have to think about with the real Rein :)

 

Well, sure, but from the pictures the X10 seems to use some pretty high-end parts. The Chinese actually really like to use expensive parts; it's the actual PCB design that's open to question, such as the distance of the decoupling capacitors from the ES9018, etc.

post #51 of 52

Boy, was I astounded stumbling over this thread!  An office colleague of mine sent me a link to a review of the Rein X3 on Headfonia, asking for my opinion because he considers purchasing it (he's hesitating between the V800 which I own and the Rein X3 based on its specs and a number of reviews).  So I do some digging for him and lo and behold, stumble over this thread.

 

Don't know where the truth lies here, of course, but if the timeline is such as sketched by Project86 then the people at Rein have some explaining to do.  What's undisputed is that the Rein gear is built in China so I guess either the people building it over there reckoned it had potential and started pushing out a clone before the production version was even ready, ripping off Rein or Rein are just taking an existing Chinese product, slap on their logo and sell it at a 300% markup which is just cynical.

 

Anyway, will send my colleague a link to this thread.

 

Totally irrelevant here but this type of situation is one of the reasons why I went with Violectric at the time.  Their V800 DAC is very good although a design update would be very welcome after almost 4 years.  I  respect people like Fried Reim who choose to design and build their gear in Europe, despite the vastly higher cost of production.  If I do pay extra I'd rather do so in the knowledge that the surplus partly goes to paying decent wages to EU workers rather than just funding the bottom line of a company that has their gear made abroad to cut costs and still sells it at a hefty premium.  Nothing against legitimate Chinese manufacturers, btw, I own a couple of HifiMan headphones.

post #52 of 52
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Well, sure, but from the pictures the X10 seems to use some pretty high-end parts.

True, but I was pointing at me ordering the X9 (which would be 'similar' to X3) but getting X10 with totally different DAC chip.
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