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post #16 of 60
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

New products often have delays. I've waited something close to 2, if not more years, for about 5 products which were all new when I ordered them. Some were from large manufacturers as well.

 

Wow, that's crazy!

 

Right now I'm really fiending for some good sound, and I don't think I could wait a year for the WA7.  I want something now and I don't have anything to hold me over until I get something.  

 

I just e-mailed Woo to see how long it'll take to get a WA7 if I order it ASAP, hopefully I'll get a response back.  

 

Currawong, I just need someone to tell me to go ahead and do it.  Tell me to go ahead and get the LCD-3 and WA7.  Say it with conviction!  Make me feel great about choosing the LCD-3 over the LCD2.2.


BTW, are there any revisions of the LCD-3 coming out anytime soon?

 

Also, I've heard people having problems with their LCD-3 being veiled?  Is that a problem that no longer exists?  

 

I also heard one LCD-3 can sound quite a bit different than another LCD-3.  Is there anyway to see the graph of the LCD-3 before you actually purchase it?

post #17 of 60

One month and one week for delivery on mine, arriving 4/17.  Seems to me, from your discussions, that you really want the LCD3 and the WA7.  If this is correct, I've found that if I didn't get what I really wanted, I would still want it after purchasing something else.  Apparently, money is not a concern so...  JMO

post #18 of 60
Its tough to blind buy something you haven't heard before. It seems though either way you wouldn't take too bad a depreciation hit if you decide you like something different. The at phones sound nothing at all like audeze from my experiences. Just don't jump into grados if you can't stand sibilance or ringing !
Edited by Mr.Sneis - 4/14/13 at 5:07pm
post #19 of 60
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Originally Posted by Meremoth View Post

 

 


BTW, are there any revisions of the LCD-3 coming out anytime soon?

 

Also, I've heard people having problems with their LCD-3 being veiled?  Is that a problem that no longer exists?  

 

I also heard one LCD-3 can sound quite a bit different than another LCD-3.  Is there anyway to see the graph of the LCD-3 before you actually purchase it?

It seems you have a many questions regarding the LCD-3 which is quite understandable.  My suggestion would be to order them from a reputable dealer with a 30 day return policy and try them out.  Even without a high quality amplifier you will have an idea of the sound.  Of course it will sound a bit flat and closed-in but I should think you will know if there keepers.  If not send them back.

post #20 of 60
Quote:Originally Posted by Meremoth View Post

 

 

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Edit:  BTW, I'm building a new PC and wonder if I should get a soundcard.  I only use headphones, no speakers.  Does the main source matter if you get an external DAC?  i.e. Will my onboard sound interfere in anyway with my amp/dac/headphones, or is the onboard sound essentially completely bypassed?

 

 

 

You wont need a sound card if you have an external DAC. If you do have one in your pc, it wont interfere as you could tell your pc to use your external DAC as default or switch between the two if needed. One thing you might want to consider while choosing your pc build is fan noise. I have always built my own computers as it is a hobby of mine. It wasn't till my pc area also turned into a headphone listening area is when dead silence was a factor. With careful selection of components (Case, Hard drives, Fan's, Power Supply etc...) you can damn near build a pc that is dead silent for the most part. If your a gamer the silent pc is more of a challenge. The LCD-2 vs LCD-3 thing. I've had both. From what you are looking for in sound it seems like you would be happy with the LCD-3 but ultimately you could hear the two side by side with your setup because 1K better for the LCD-3?     


Edited by cired - 4/14/13 at 6:33pm
post #21 of 60
I'd say if you really want to do it, just do it and get it over with. The suggestion about buying from a vendor with a return policy is a good one though.

As for graphs, unless you are an expert, they aren't going to really tell you as much as you think they will.
post #22 of 60

It's fine to think before you buy, but overthinking will drive you crazy, so, get the WA7 and LCD-3 from a reputable retailer, and be done with it.

post #23 of 60
Thread Starter 

Okay, so I'm fairly sure I'm going to get the LCD-3's and the WA7.  :D


Some more questions, however...

 

LCD-3's - leather or suede?  

 

Also, where to buy?  I noticed Woo sells them.  If I'm getting the WA7, should I just go ahead and get the LCD-3's from there as well?  

 

BTW, I heard back from Jack and he said the WA7's will ship 4 weeks from purchase date.  

 

 

Now for the WA7's - what color do you guys prefer?  I think they both look nice, so this is tough for me.  The black one comes with smoked glass which might make the WA7's less distracting when it's dark.  

 

Also, it seems like the Electro Harmonix tubes might we worth investing in.  They say "limited offer" on the website.  Does that mean they'll eventually cost more than $100, or that they'll just stop selling them, or what exactly?  

 

As far as tube rolling is concerned, the stock and Electro is all you can do without modifications?  

 

Thanks again, guys.  

post #24 of 60
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Originally Posted by Meremoth View Post

Okay, so I'm fairly sure I'm going to get the LCD-3's and the WA7.  :D


Some more questions, however...

 

LCD-3's - leather or suede?  

 

Also, where to buy?  I noticed Woo sells them.  If I'm getting the WA7, should I just go ahead and get the LCD-3's from there as well?  

 

BTW, I heard back from Jack and he said the WA7's will ship 4 weeks from purchase date.  

 

 

Now for the WA7's - what color do you guys prefer?  I think they both look nice, so this is tough for me.  The black one comes with smoked glass which might make the WA7's less distracting when it's dark.  

 

Also, it seems like the Electro Harmonix tubes might we worth investing in.  They say "limited offer" on the website.  Does that mean they'll eventually cost more than $100, or that they'll just stop selling them, or what exactly?  

 

As far as tube rolling is concerned, the stock and Electro is all you can do without modifications?  

 

Thanks again, guys.  

 

Good call on the LCD-3, i'm a Grado fan, but i had the chance to hear the LCD-3 a few weeks ago at the Montréal Hi-Fi show and was very impressed with what i heard, They are kind of heavy, but my PS1000 are no lightweight either, so that didn't bother me. Don't ask me what amp they were paired with, cause i can't remember.

 

I personally would buy both amp and headphones from Woo, if and when you get them, be sure to give us your impressions.

post #25 of 60

Black, but see if you can get the clear glass. 

post #26 of 60
Thread Starter 

I've read that the leather and suede sounds different.  

 

Do you guys have a preference?  

post #27 of 60

Original poster:

 

"I guess what I'm looking for is some open cans that do a really good job with bass that aren't too bright, sibilant, and/or harsh with trebles.  I'm very sensitive to bright sounds and consider them extremely fatiguing.  Despite being sensitive to treble, I appreciate the detail, soundstage, imaging and separation of bright headphones and do not want to sacrifice much of those traits, but I plan on using these headphones every day for hours upon hours a day, so fatigue is one of the most important factors for me when deciding what I want, and I consider bright sounds much more fatiguing than dark sounds."

 

My response:

 

I could have written this myself.  I always find myself hearing more detail, more conversations, more speaker mistakes than those around me.  And the bright sounds that seem to bother nobody bother me.  And for sensitive ears like ours I have found the LCD-3 to deliver the great sound without fatigue.  I've tried many Stax, all the way up to the 009 with Woo GES, Ortofon HD800 with various amps.   The Stax 009 are clear, clean, detailed, transparent, but I do not find more detail than I get with LCD-3.  Just lighter tone, which emphasizes detail, but leaves me wanting more full mids and weightier bass when I try to get at home that which I hear at live classical and jazz concerts.     

 

The LCD-3 are the best combination of detail, naturalness, fullness, and low distortion I have heard.  Just get them.  You know that you will eventually get them, I can see by your wandering back and forth about the LCD-2.2 and LCD-3 that you will eventually get them, not knowing which is better is going to kill you, admit it, you know yourself!  Get the LCD-3 and be done.


Edited by Operakid - 4/19/13 at 11:35am
post #28 of 60

I'm going to add on to this thread. I plan on getting the LCD2s .

 

Should I just save up for the Burson Conductor ( I plan on listening to mostly symphonic metal, like Nightwish or Within Temptation, which I heard sound great on these cans). I like great mids and great lows, but like everything to be clear and transparent. Thus I would love a good balance of treble and bass. I have also looked at the V200, Burson Soloist (Which I believe I would need a DAC to use with my computer), and the Pan am. I know I may be missing a couple other amps as well. I want to drive  the LCD2s to their full potential, and best possible sound, or as CLOSE as I can get to that. That being said, any suggestions for me?

 

If possible, if the amp could work well with my HD650s, thatd be a plus!


Edited by ListeningAura - 4/20/13 at 3:31am
post #29 of 60

How about Dacmini ?

post #30 of 60
Thread Starter 

Okay, so I'm literally on the verge of getting the LCD-3's.  They really just sound like the overall perfect headphones for me.

 

Now, I'm not like a lot of you guys.  I love and appreciate really good audio, but once I buy this setup, I'm going to be "done" for a long time.  So this purchase needs to be perfect.  

 

I've pretty much decided on the LCD-3's, but what about the WA7?  With the WA7, will I be getting almost full potential (whatever exactly that means) of my LCD-3's?  

 

After reading some more reviews on the WA7, it seems like a couple of people wanted the DAC to be better.  Is this something I should be concerned with when pairing the WA7 with the LCD-3's?  Is there a better DAC/Amp combo I could get, or just a better DAC and Amp that doesn't go into absurd price ranges?  

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