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For Sale: WTB Sennheiser HD800

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For Sale:
WTB Sennheiser HD800

Will Ship To: Anywhere

Hey,

 

I am looking for HD800 for around 1K$ (not including shipping and PP charges of course)

 

Looking forward for your PMs :)


Edited by pila405 - 4/3/13 at 1:06am
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How do you get a HD800 without the 6KHz peak? Modification?

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Nope. There are some later manufactured 'phones which came without the peak straight from the factory. You can see it on their FR sheet. (most of the 'phones with the serial above 14K)

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According to Sennheiser there is no such thing!

It was claimed on this forum over a year ago that sennheiser had modified the frequency response of the HD800

I believe that Tyll on Innerfidelity might have tested two pairs with widely spaced serial numbers but did not find that much difference

 

I checked with all my sources who have professional relationships Sennheiser and my own contact in the UK and Germany and they refute that any changes have been made, so is this myth and legend rather than fact?    

 

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Originally Posted by pila405 View Post

Nope. There are some later manufactured 'phones which came without the peak straight from the factory. You can see it on their FR sheet. (most of the 'phones with the serial above 14K)

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So maybe they didn't change anything, but there are still some 'phones which doesn't have that peak, and that's what I am looking for. You can clearly see it on the FR sheet they send.

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Different pairs have been tested and all of them have that peak (regardless official Sennheiser's graphs)... You could try to do modding - but you loose the soundstage.

 

Rather than searching for something that doesn't exist, consider purchasing a tube amplifier for the Senns - because problems related with treble of HD800 are mostly due to amping them with low output impedance solid-state amplifiers. They cause the upper mids and treble sounding thin, harsh and lacking detail.

 

With a tube amplifier, there is zero problem with treble... Just smooth sound.


Edited by RustA - 4/2/13 at 4:46pm
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I agree  the HD800 is very amp dependent but in my experience it is nothing to do with tube or solid state.  I tried many of both types before finding one from Headamp that made them listenable.

I think it also depends on how sensitive you are to hot treble as each of our hearing is different to one another.

 

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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

Different pairs have been tested and all of them have that peak (regardless official Sennheiser's graphs)... You could try to do modding - but you loose the soundstage.

 

Rather than searching for something that doesn't exist, consider purchasing a tube amplifier for the Senns - because problems related with treble of HD800 are mostly due to amping them with low output impedance solid-state amplifiers. They cause the upper mids and treble sounding thin, harsh and lacking detail.

 

With a tube amplifier, there is zero problem with treble... Just smooth sound.

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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

Different pairs have been tested and all of them have that peak (regardless official Sennheiser's graphs)... You could try to do modding - but you loose the soundstage.

 

Rather than searching for something that doesn't exist, consider purchasing a tube amplifier for the Senns - because problems related with treble of HD800 are mostly due to amping them with low output impedance solid-state amplifiers. They cause the upper mids and treble sounding thin, harsh and lacking detail.

 

With a tube amplifier, there is zero problem with treble... Just smooth sound.

 

Sorry but that is total rubbish.

 

I have mine connected to an Audio-gd Master-6 via TRS connection (waiting for my balanced silver cable to arrive) and they suffer from absolutely no problems with their treble and thats with a 1 ohm output impedance.

The problem with the HD800's is they reveal any issues with the hf's regardless whether you use tube or SS.


Edited by nigeljames - 4/3/13 at 3:28am
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Sorry but that is total rubbish.

 

I have mine connected to an Audio-gd Master-6 via TRS connection (waiting for my balanced silver cable to arrive) and they suffer from absolutely no problems with their treble and thats with a 1 ohm output impedance.

The problem with the HD800's is they reveal any issues with the hf's regardless whether you use tube or SS.

 

No, it's not... Enough voltage and suitable output impedance are both important. It's called "over-damping" (high input impedance headphone w/ superlow output impedance amp). After I tried an amplifier with high impedance mode optimised for 300ohm headphones (but fine up to around 600 ohm), it completely changed my view. It's not very well possible to recognize the differences without proper side-by-side testing but it's there (and it's not related to FR but distortion and lack of detail).

 

That said, sale/trade section is not for discussing and therefore I end my contribution here. I only wanted to advise the OP to think about more variables that play its role here.


Edited by RustA - 4/3/13 at 4:13am
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