Originally Posted by HeatFan12
obob, obob always the pioneer...You da man bro...
Have you tried it personally?
But even if I hadn't, that doesn't change my argument.
Listen to the digital copy and an LP rip? I mean "personally" (not an "acquired" copy that you really don't know where it came from. Once a month I go over to a buddy's house that has a recording studio with crates and crates of vinyl back from our growing up days..Especially some sick 12" remixes from back in the day as well as vintage vinyl.....Whether he touches up the pops and clicks or not, it is very evident with revealing gear....Now, is it night and day, no....But if you have decent gear that reveals itself, it's worth it, imo. Especially for me that the only cost is gas to his studio. I lend him a few headphones and an amp or two and he rips and rips...
If the LP has been played repeatedly, it's even worse off than it would've been in theory (they do wear out with time).
See here for more on FR: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl)#Vinyl_is_better_than_CD_because_it_reproduces_higher_frequencies_than_CD_and_avoids_anti-aliasing_filter_issues_at_the_frequencies_CDs_can_reproduce
I've heard between 14 and 18khz as a functional top-end, and you also have to ask: what the crap do we actually care about in the ultrasonic range?
I mean ignore the hardware limits that basically every speaker, headphone, etc has that makes it impossible, ignore the problems with decoders and amplifiers that Monty points out (in the Xiph article), ignore the human lack of ability to hear at those frequencies, and ignore that very few "things" produce any usable sound up there - seriously what the crap exists up there that we want to listen to? Even if we could...
This isn't a discussion about "fidelity" really - it's a discussion about appropriate container selection. Using 24/192 for audio is like driving a school-bus as a DD for a single person. It makes no sense unless you're the gas station owner.
And this isn't an assault on vinyl - good condition, cared for, etc LPs on a decent turntable (which does not mean $300,000+) can sound absolutely fine, but the whole "CD vs vinyl" debate really needs to be put to bed; CDs are the superior format, and unless you're looking for hard to find issues of a given album or single (which you may not find on CD or other digital formats), there's no technical advantages to vinyl. That having been said, I do get the appeal to a given extent, and have absolutely no issues with legacy formats by and large.