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post #46 of 182
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Quote:
Originally posted by Edwood
Would using an Xacto knife be enough, or do I have to cut all the way through the PCB?

-Ed
I will figure that part out
post #47 of 182
Mini XLRs, eh? something like these?


order the female panel mount from mouser: http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?hand..._pcodeid=50207

male panel mount:
http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?hand..._pcodeid=50207

female plug:
http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?hand..._pcodeid=50207

male plug:
http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?hand..._pcodeid=50207

those are all for 3 pin plugs. for 4 (or more) pins, just substitute the # you want in place of 3 in the part number
post #48 of 182
oh! those mini-XLR comes in more than just 3pin!? I want them badly

I would use them for my new balanced Gilmore and balanced headphone cable..

why must I live in such small country with even smaller market
post #49 of 182
Standard four pin XLR is too big for you?



This is what I envisioned modding the R10's cable would look like.

Not too big. Looks better than the stock connector.
And the best part is that with the use of an adapter, it can still be used with standard 1/4" jacks.


-Ed
post #50 of 182
Alright, I'm assuming that I'll need hook up wire for the Balanced output mod.

What's a good gauge wire? I might as well go all the way, silver wire?

-Ed
post #51 of 182
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Edwood
Alright, I'm assuming that I'll need hook up wire for the Balanced output mod.
Only if you use the XLR output, if you use the built-in 1/4" jacks as I would, you don't need anything extra.
post #52 of 182
But if you're cutting the traces to the 1/4" TRS input jack, then how are you going to re-route the outputs to it? You'll need to use hook up wires, correct? Or is there some weird thing you're going to do? You're not going to use solder to make the connections are you?

-Ed
post #53 of 182
well sh1t on me. It doesn't work, Peter.

No sound, nada. Here's the weird part. When I switch between the sound cards in Foobar, (with balanced connectors yanked.) I get sound. So basically, Foobar thinks the both cards are the same one. I rebooted, no dice.

It was working perfectly in your computer, but nada out of mine. WTF?!

I guess I'll yank it and have a looksy.



*Edit* Well, I yanked both the cards. Checked the solder joints. Everything looks good. Put only the modded card in and it works perfectly. So it's a drive issue.

I'll try to put the stock card back in later. Right now I'm enjoying the music. Holy crap, this is not a subtle improvement.

-Ed
post #54 of 182
Thread Starter 
I just replied to your PM. I'm glad it's not a hardware problem. Happy listening! I am having a great time rocking out here, myself
post #55 of 182
Yep, it's your power, Peter. I don't lose as much overall volume. (Still lose some though)
Power does make a difference.

Also, best of all, using balanced cables has all but eliminated the ground loop! Yay! Ii can use my grounded PS Audio xStream cable again!

-Ed
post #56 of 182
Thread Starter 
Schweeeeet!

We had such a little ball today, it was worth putting off my schoolwork
post #57 of 182
Guys I don't know what you two are talking about anymore. You two need a room on Instant Messenger

So Ed went over to Iron's place to check out which mods? The balanced output one and??? who's card is in what state now?
post #58 of 182
Thread Starter 
Mine is running unbalanced, analog output stage bypassed by a pair of Blackgates.

Ed has two, one stock, one is now running balanced output, with the alanog output stage bypassed by short pieces of stranded copper wire (ripped from Canare Starquad).

Routed through the Grace, the two sounded nearly identical to both of us, with only minor tonal differences likely caused by the different calbes used (headphile XRS (silver) for unbalanced, Canare Starquad (copper) for balanced).
post #59 of 182
Lan, time to smoke s'more solder, man.

If you don't mind not having analog input, the balanced output and analog output stage bypass mod is very easy and cheap. You only need about 4 inches of hook up wire.

So get some pliers ready and warm up the soldering iron.

-Ed
post #60 of 182
Pics of my Analog Ouput Stage Bypass and Balanced Output modded RME PAD.









Unless Larry can make some XRS Balanced XLR connectors, I may make my own silver cable. Canare Starquad will have to do for now.

-Ed
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