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Paypal Gift option

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

I am about to use the Paypal gift option to make payment today but seems it disappeared, only two options left:

 

- The first one: seller pays fee

- The second one: buyer pays fee

 

My account is US based. Anyone has the same issue? 

post #2 of 11

I never use it anyway because it removes all buyer protection...

post #3 of 11

Might depend on how much it's for. I recall a buyer of mine getting hit with fees when the gift was more than a grand or so.

 

I only take gifts from people with little or no feedback because I've been screwed by PayPal's awful buyer protection policies too many times.

post #4 of 11

I remember reading on here someone being barred from it because of their frequency and had caught on to what he was doing.  They sent him a notice about it.

post #5 of 11

It's against HF rules to pay via PP gift, aside from the point it leaves you with no protection in the event a buy goes bad. Offer to pay "for good or services" and include an extra 3% to cover fees. Or offer to split the fees with the seller. 

post #6 of 11

Sorry but I'm either taking a gift or not selling to people without feedback.

 

The problem isn't the fees. It's a problem with PayPal's horrendous buyer protection. Sellers have near 0 options if a buyer complains for ANY reason. It's pretty ridiculous to tell you the truth.

 

I learned that the hard way via a deal here on Head-fi.

 

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Originally Posted by fatcat28037 View Post

It's against HF rules to pay via PP gift, aside from the point it leaves you with no protection in the event a buy goes bad. Offer to pay "for good or services" and include an extra 3% to cover fees. Or offer to split the fees with the seller. 

post #7 of 11

Did you have tracking information and a good feedback record?

post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Tsujigiri View Post

Did you have tracking information and a good feedback record?

 

Yes and yes. The tracking showed it stuck in customs. I also called and got an email confirming this. They still sided with the buyer. 

 

Their 'investigation' process is a joke. I also confirmed later that it was in fact delivered after being in customs for a month.

 

Buyer protection is good and all but when it's that one sided there's so incentive for the seller to us the system properly.

post #9 of 11

Yeah, I don't blame you for being wary of new buyers then. Fortunately I haven't run into that problem as a seller yet. But on the other side, I ordered Nixie tubes from a seller in Russia, and just had to open a case because they haven't been delivered yet. The tracking shows that it was delayed at customs and should be coming in soon, but I had to open a case because if I didn't the 45 days would be up and my buyer protection would expire. I'm fine with waiting longer and I think the seller is honest, but opening a case is the only way to extend my buyer protection. They should really adapt their policies to account for this, because I doubt this is that uncommon of an occurrence.

post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Sorry but I'm either taking a gift or not selling to people without feedback.

 

The problem isn't the fees. It's a problem with PayPal's horrendous buyer protection. Sellers have near 0 options if a buyer complains for ANY reason. It's pretty ridiculous to tell you the truth.

 

I learned that the hard way via a deal here on Head-fi.

 

 

That recalls me to Todd (TTVJ) problem. It seems the credit card companies and Paypal always side the customers. I only use Paypal gift when 99% sure about the sellers or they have a lots more good feedback than me.

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by 3rdear View Post

I remember reading on here someone being barred from it because of their frequency and had caught on to what he was doing.  They sent him a notice about it.

Probably was me.

 

I've been BSTing here for a long time.  When people would send gift payments they would say "For the hd600's" which was a huge red flag to Paypal.  Not sure why people insisted on this - if you're trying to fool Paypal you'd be better off leaving notes and title BLANK or "Happy Birthday" - something where the gift moniker really does apply.  I remember there were people who would send me gift even though I never asked for it or mentioned it; I appreciated the thought but it probably ended up hurting me more in the long run.  At that point as a seller explaining this to potential buyers you lose a lot of folks who think your 9 year track history and 80+ feedback is some sort of cover up because you're trying to scam them out of $150.

 

For the past year or so I just offer to eat the fees.  Since many Head-Fi sales are not in the thousands range it's probably better to just deal with the loss and move on with your life.  Yes the fees suck, no there are not many viable alternatives.  It frustrates me how many sellers "require" +3%  - when I sell I'd rather be one price and done.

 

Also not sure why so many people are insistent upon paypal's buyer protection via BST forum sales - have you guys read the fine print?  I would value PP's buyer protection with a big grain of salt.  This isn't e-bay where there is afforded protection and triple the fees; even on ebay there is a lot of fine print.

 

At the end of the day you can't win them all, I think that moving away from gifting is a good thing but ultimately wish we had better methods to send/receive money.


Edited by Mr.Sneis - 3/29/13 at 12:02pm
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