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post #766 of 1863
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post

Try not to get too wrapped up in the hour-by-hour impressions you get here of various headphones, particularly TOTL cans like the LCD-X. Just listen to your music, watch YouTube vids etc and accept that some days will be better than others - that's life, even with nothing more than an iPod and a $10 pair of Philips IEMs. It's fascinating that some Head-Fiers seem to regard their brains as somehow static participants in the whole process - no different to the cable between their DAC and headamp - that just isnt the case, IME. If it was, I could happily listen to virtuoso musicians that bore me witless 24/7 - regardless of the gear, that starts to sound like elevator music if I listen to it long enough  wink.gif

The best thing you can bring to this hobby is a good night's sleep and a really good recording of the music you love and cherish.
Well said. The reason we all join head-fi is to enjoy the music.
post #767 of 1863

I'm not sure why I would invest around 10 grand (in NZ dollars) in headfi gear if it wasn't to enjoy the music.

 

I thought this website was about discussing the gear that we use to deliver the musical bliss that we are all looking for?

 

In any case, my concern with my LCD-X has been addressed - a lengthy burn in with white and pink noise from my PC has fixed the treble issue. Results when hooked up to the Auralic DAC + Amp are stunning - and that is what it is all about.

post #768 of 1863

I have just taken delivery of a HD800 and HE6 today. Plugging them into the Vega/Taurus setup was interesting - I was expecting to have to jack the gain knob into the stratosphere to get the HE6 to sing - not a bit of it.

 

The HD800 (STD) and HE6 (BAL) become LOUD with the gain at around the 10 o'clock and 12 o'clock positions respectively. The LCD-X gets uncomfortably loud for me well before the 9 o'clock position. This amp has plenty of grunt and appears to have no problem driving the HE6.

 

Both new headphones are showing superb detail pre-burn. The HE6 somewhat bright and perhaps a little veiled, but that is to be expected right out of the box.

 

So glad I went with the Auralic DAC/Amp setup. SQ is excellent and the Taurus appears to be able to drive any dynamic or planar headphone out there.

post #769 of 1863

So, people, due to me being denied access to the Schiit Ragnarok thread, I need to look how to work this out, so other than messaging the admins about it.. I'm also going to do some more research in here because I already own the Vega, I would like to know a few things.

 

Generally, I'm not a heavy speaker user, and the desk space is somewhat limited at this moment as well as house space, though I might get Ragnarok at some point, I might even give them another chance if they have some word by July 20th give or take a few days..

 

So what I  understand, the headphone output on Schiit Ragnarok gives us a lot of power in balanced mode, the question is - Taurus mk2 has about half the power output, does it make any difference at this point?

 

What else could make a difference, I've seen the specs on the Taurus mk2 and it looks really amazing, just like Vega, pretty much no distortion in any way shape or form.

 

I've seen some people comparing Auralic Taurus mk2 to Headamp GS-X mk2 or GS-1 with Dynalo+ board, and they say that the sound is very similar which in comparison would make Auralic Taurus the better amp for price/performance ratio.

 

I'm looking for an end game setup at this point with the addition of Schiit Ragnarok later perhaps for the speaker module (I'm somewhat disappointed in the other thread :'( )

 

If anyone can help me make the decision, I'd be happy...

post #770 of 1863

There's a special locked discussion thread that you can't access? Weird. 

 

I can't imaging more power making much of a difference. Even for HE-6, you've got plenty to do the job with Taurus. Now, there may indeed be a difference in terms of capability or sound signature, but I doubt it has to do with one having more or less power than the other. 

post #771 of 1863
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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

So, people, due to me being denied access to the Schiit Ragnarok thread, I need to look how to work this out, so other than messaging the admins about it.. I'm also going to do some more research in here because I already own the Vega, I would like to know a few things.

 

Generally, I'm not a heavy speaker user, and the desk space is somewhat limited at this moment as well as house space, though I might get Ragnarok at some point, I might even give them another chance if they have some word by July 20th give or take a few days..

 

So what I  understand, the headphone output on Schiit Ragnarok gives us a lot of power in balanced mode, the question is - Taurus mk2 has about half the power output, does it make any difference at this point?

 

What else could make a difference, I've seen the specs on the Taurus mk2 and it looks really amazing, just like Vega, pretty much no distortion in any way shape or form.

 

I've seen some people comparing Auralic Taurus mk2 to Headamp GS-X mk2 or GS-1 with Dynalo+ board, and they say that the sound is very similar which in comparison would make Auralic Taurus the better amp for price/performance ratio.

 

I'm looking for an end game setup at this point with the addition of Schiit Ragnarok later perhaps for the speaker module (I'm somewhat disappointed in the other thread :'( )

 

If anyone can help me make the decision, I'd be happy...

I would think a dedicated headphone amp will be better in your case. 

post #772 of 1863
He was told several times that the Rag will be ready when it's ready and that if he just absolutely cannot wait that there are many great alternatives to look at. So if it HAS to be July 20 then BUY SOMETHING ELSE. Not that he was locked out of the thread just that he seems to be a terminal whiner.
post #773 of 1863
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post
 

There's a special locked discussion thread that you can't access? Weird. 

 

I can't imaging more power making much of a difference. Even for HE-6, you've got plenty to do the job with Taurus. Now, there may indeed be a difference in terms of capability or sound signature, but I doubt it has to do with one having more or less power than the other. 

 

John, what would be your list of preferred amps, like first 3 in list of most preferred to least preferred?

 

I've read a few reviews (including yours) of the Taurus mk2, and while most times it's compared to higher priced or similarly priced amps in favor of the Taurus mk2, there are still sometimes amps that are much cheaper, like for example on your own review you said " It stood its ground against the $1,000 Violectric V200 whose output stage sports eight transistors per channel."

That means that a V200 can be almost as good at the very least...

 

I'm certainly thinking according to my Plan B which is what I said earlier - get Auralic Taurus mk2 to match my Vega, then see how awesome (or not) Ragnarok is and make my decision then.

post #774 of 1863
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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

 

John, what would be your list of preferred amps, like first 3 in list of most preferred to least preferred?

 

I've read a few reviews (including yours) of the Taurus mk2, and while most times it's compared to higher priced or similarly priced amps in favor of the Taurus mk2, there are still sometimes amps that are much cheaper, like for example on your own review you said " It stood its ground against the $1,000 Violectric V200 whose output stage sports eight transistors per channel."

That means that a V200 can be almost as good at the very least...

 

I'm certainly thinking according to my Plan B which is what I said earlier - get Auralic Taurus mk2 to match my Vega, then see how awesome (or not) Ragnarok is and make my decision then.

 

 

Tough call, but I'd have to say my  top 3 (excluding electrostatic amps since I don't think you want one of those) at the moment are:

 

Taurus mkII

Questyle CMA800R

Violectric V200

 

I also very much enjoy the Icon Audio HP8 mkII and Analog Design Labs Svetlana II, both of which are single ended triode designs. Those aren't my top three only because they aren't as "universal", in that they work well with most every headphone out there. But when paired with the right headphone they sometimes surpass the models in my top 3. Hopefully that makes sense.

 

I will be getting the new Violectric V281 and I suspect it will be very competitive with Taurus, but there's no way of knowing for sure. 

 

Based on the comment above, you might be overthinking this. There are always a ton of options, several of which could work for you. Gotta just pick one and go with it. I see no reason why Taurus shouldn't be the one for you. 

post #775 of 1863
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post
 

 

 

Tough call, but I'd have to say my  top 3 (excluding electrostatic amps since I don't think you want one of those) at the moment are:

 

Taurus mkII

Questyle CMA800R

Violectric V200

 

I also very much enjoy the Icon Audio HP8 mkII and Analog Design Labs Svetlana II, both of which are single ended triode designs. Those aren't my top three only because they aren't as "universal", in that they work well with most every headphone out there. But when paired with the right headphone they sometimes surpass the models in my top 3. Hopefully that makes sense.

 

I will be getting the new Violectric V281 and I suspect it will be very competitive with Taurus, but there's no way of knowing for sure. 

 

Based on the comment above, you might be overthinking this. There are always a ton of options, several of which could work for you. Gotta just pick one and go with it. I see no reason why Taurus shouldn't be the one for you. 

 

Well I'll just have to take you on your word it appears there aren't bad reviews for Taurus as much as the Vega gets good reviews.

 

A little question, is it possible to connect 2 headphones at the same time, one from balanced the other from single-ended and get sound from both?

post #776 of 1863
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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

 

Well I'll just have to take you on your word it appears there aren't bad reviews for Taurus as much as the Vega gets good reviews.

 

A little question, is it possible to connect 2 headphones at the same time, one from balanced the other from single-ended and get sound from both?

Nope you cant because there is a button for you to switch the output between balanced and single-ended. 

Therefore, you can only have sound out from the output that you choose. 

post #777 of 1863
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Originally Posted by Xdaggersoul View Post
 

Nope you cant because there is a button for you to switch the output between balanced and single-ended. 

Therefore, you can only have sound out from the output that you choose. 

 

 

This.

post #778 of 1863

As far as i am aware; you can run the 4 pin XLR out as either "Single Ended" or "Balanced mode"

Which you have a balanced and single ended heaphone plugged in each socket and you select "Single Ended" both will play :)


Although as it is still an XLR out the volume will be higher on one..

post #779 of 1863

This post is a confession of ignorance, and a journey of discovery for newbie. It might amuse some of the other forumites - feel free to have a laugh at my expense - I did :smile:

 

I was happily using my Vega/Taurus/LCD-X setup via SPDIF connections (from a Wadia i170 iPod transport and direct from my PC). I had never used a USB connection for audio before, ever. My Wadia transport died a horrible death this evening after some years of the faithful service. As I was trouble shooting the problem I was trying different inputs and outputs on various bits of the audio chain - and tried running the Vega on USB from the PC. And my audio world changed forever in an instant.

 

Detail, clarity, sound stage, separation - everything - took a big step up. The implementation of USB on the Vega is just fantastic. I was getting about 50% (or less) out of this machine on SPDIF.

 

Now I get it - asynchronous, buffered USB that allows the Vega to do its femto clock magic and other tricks.

 

The only downside is that some of my lesser quality recordings have to be trashed - they are unlistenable - every pop and crackle now sticks out like dog testicles.

 

I wonder how long it would have taken me to see the light if my Wadia hadn't done me a big favour by dying tonight?

 

Anyway - thought I would share this with the other Auralic owners out there. I now realize what a special bit of kit the Vega really is.

post #780 of 1863
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Originally Posted by TonyNewman View Post
 

This post is a confession of ignorance, and a journey of discovery for newbie. It might amuse some of the other forumites - feel free to have a laugh at my expense - I did :smile:

 

I was happily using my Vega/Taurus/LCD-X setup via SPDIF connections (from a Wadia i170 iPod transport and direct from my PC). I had never used a USB connection for audio before, ever. My Wadia transport died a horrible death this evening after some years of the faithful service. As I was trouble shooting the problem I was trying different inputs and outputs on various bits of the audio chain - and tried running the Vega on USB from the PC. And my audio world changed forever in an instant.

 

Detail, clarity, sound stage, separation - everything - took a big step up. The implementation of USB on the Vega is just fantastic. I was getting about 50% (or less) out of this machine on SPDIF.

 

Now I get it - asynchronous, buffered USB that allows the Vega to do its femto clock magic and other tricks.

 

The only downside is that some of my lesser quality recordings have to be trashed - they are unlistenable - every pop and crackle now sticks out like dog testicles.

 

I wonder how long it would have taken me to see the light if my Wadia hadn't done me a big favour by dying tonight?

 

Anyway - thought I would share this with the other Auralic owners out there. I now realize what a special bit of kit the Vega really is.

 

I'm connecting the PS3 to Vega via Optical, sounds good enough, but definitely USB is better and has the option for DSD :)

 

Also, iPod, shame on you XD

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