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Personally, I'd never buy any PS product...

post #542 of 898
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I've probably mentioned this before, but I'm not really sold on PS Audio or the new DirectStream marketing project DAC. Maybe I end up being wrong - I'll admit it if that ends up being the case. Still, in light of recent patterns, I would absolutely NOT pay full price for any PS Audio product. Even when the PWD and PWT were still newish and popular, it was easy to find them for 30-50% off list price. 

 

 

You are saying that Anedio D2 is your favorite DAC of all.

 

The PWD2 DAC is said to be a nice DAC, but in my area it's quite pricey (more expensive than the Vega) and doesn't offer the features I needed anyway, so I opted to get the Vega, and I'm happy with my decision, just hoping to convert people ;)

post #543 of 898
mitchb was speaking from the standpoint of someone who owned and enjoyed the PWDMK2. It would, IMHO, be shortsighted for him to not at least consider upgrading to the DirectStream DAC before parting with his hard earned money on a new DAC purchase. I've never heard a DirectStream DAC and no reviews of it exist thus far, so the jury is definitely still out on that product. Personally, I'm very happy with the Vega and I no longer own a PWD but, then, I'm not standing in mitchb's shoes.

As always, it's complicated. I have an Auralic ARIES Deluxe model hopefully coming within the next couple of months(thanks Jason) and Auralic states that one of their planned upgrades of the ARIES at some point down the line is to add DSD upsampling(the Vega already does PCM upsampling). As far as I can tell, the DirectStream is all about DSD upsampling algorithms so the question will be who does it better, PS Audio or Auralic.

PS Audio lost a lot of credibility when it failed on its promise to deliver gapless playback(the PSA Bridge still does not provide gapless and the much promised Bridge II, which is supposed to fix this, is still without a planned release date). PSA also advertised a "Silent Server" to address the gapless issue but the Silent Server never materialized and the gapless problem remains now some 4 or so years after the original PWD and Bridge was first produced.

Well, enough OT posting about PS Audio. Let's get back to the Auralic products. I have to say, I'm surprised not to see more postings about the upcoming ARIES on this thread.

Esau
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Originally Posted by jtwrace View Post
 

Personally, I'd never buy any PS product...

 

 

About a decade ago, many HeadFi members had high hopes for a then-upcoming PS Audio headphone amp. It was delayed and delayed to the point of absurdity. Promises were made and then repeatedly broken. Meanwhile, the hype train for their new DAC project was going full swing. Some around here have not forgotten this behavior, and it's easy to see how their "marketing" has not changed since then. 

 

Btw, the headphone amp, when it finally released, was disappointing. Anybody still use a PS Audio GCHA? Didn't think so. Have they tried another headphone amp since then? Nope. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

 

 

You are saying that Anedio D2 is your favorite DAC of all.

 

The PWD2 DAC is said to be a nice DAC, but in my area it's quite pricey (more expensive than the Vega) and doesn't offer the features I needed anyway, so I opted to get the Vega, and I'm happy with my decision, just hoping to convert people ;)

 

No, my current favorite is the Resonessence Labs Invicta Mirus. Anedio D2 is high on my list though, along with Vega, BMC PureDAC, Yulong DA8, and some others. Vega is very, very nice indeed!

 

 

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mitchb was speaking from the standpoint of someone who owned and enjoyed the PWDMK2. It would, IMHO, be shortsighted for him to not at least consider upgrading to the DirectStream DAC before parting with his hard earned money on a new DAC purchase. I've never heard a DirectStream DAC and no reviews of it exist thus far, so the jury is definitely still out on that product. Personally, I'm very happy with the Vega and I no longer own a PWD but, then, I'm not standing in mitchb's shoes.

As always, it's complicated. I have an Auralic ARIES Deluxe model hopefully coming within the next couple of months(thanks Jason) and Auralic states that one of their planned upgrades of the ARIES at some point down the line is to add DSD upsampling(the Vega already does PCM upsampling). As far as I can tell, the DirectStream is all about DSD upsampling algorithms so the question will be who does it better, PS Audio or Auralic.

PS Audio lost a lot of credibility when it failed on its promise to deliver gapless playback(the PSA Bridge still does not provide gapless and the much promised Bridge II, which is supposed to fix this, is still without a planned release date). PSA also advertised a "Silent Server" to address the gapless issue but the Silent Server never materialized and the gapless problem remains now some 4 or so years after the original PWD and Bridge was first produced.

Well, enough OT posting about PS Audio. Let's get back to the Auralic products. I have to say, I'm surprised not to see more postings about the upcoming ARIES on this thread.

Esau

 

Agreed. Sorry!

post #545 of 898

The AURALiC Aries will be a great product combined with an NAS Media HD looking forward to June ship dates.


Edited by thirdcoastaudio - 4/27/14 at 10:03am
post #546 of 898

Any others out there who could provide a bit of a compare of the Taurus/Vega system to the Mjolnir/Gungnir system [balanced mode] particularly with the LCD3s? Would be very much appreciated...

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Any others out there who could provide a bit of a compare of the Taurus/Vega system to the Mjolnir/Gungnir system [balanced mode] particularly with the LCD3s? Would be very much appreciated...

The latter sounds good but once you do a direct comparison, cost aside, there is no comparison IMO.

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Well in what ways does the Taurus/Vega system exceed the performance of the M/G? Really thinking about trying a different pairing of amp/dac next time so any details would be nice.

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Speaking of Aries, I am not intending to hurt anyone's feelings especially Auralic themselves, but I'm really having trouble realizing what this kind of streamer is good for and why would it be preferable over a self built streamer (some small PC/HTPC connected to the DAC with foobar2000 installed which supports DSD/DXD - and regular Wifi is fast enough for DSD/DXD playback anyway)

Can anyone enlighten me please?

 

 

 

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Well in what ways does the Taurus/Vega system exceed the performance of the M/G? Really thinking about trying a different pairing of amp/dac next time so any details would be nice.

 

Start reading this thread, by the time you would have finished (or even half way there) you would have formed an opinion on why Mjolnir/Gungnir is inferior to the  Taurus/Vega. Sure the M/G is a bit of a bargain, Schiit is an excellent company I've got the Lyr and it works great, I wouldn't expect any more (it is definitely excellent for the price). Going by what the Vega brought to my table, it paired with the Taurus, I think I can call it a day ;)

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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

Speaking of Aries, I am not intending to hurt anyone's feelings especially Auralic themselves, but I'm really having trouble realizing what this kind of streamer is good for and why would it be preferable over a self built streamer (some small PC/HTPC connected to the DAC with foobar2000 installed which supports DSD/DXD - and regular Wifi is fast enough for DSD/DXD playback anyway)

Can anyone enlighten me please?

 

 

 

 

Start reading this thread, by the time you would have finished (or even half way there) you would have formed an opinion on why Mjolnir/Gungnir is inferior to the  Taurus/Vega. Sure the M/G is a bit of a bargain, Schiit is an excellent company I've got the Lyr and it works great, I wouldn't expect any more (it is definitely excellent for the price). Going by what the Vega brought to my table, it paired with the Taurus, I think I can call it a day ;)

Yes, I have an Aries Deluxe on pre-order.  2xDSD wirelessly but I'll use it hard wired since my NAS is already hard wired from the opposite side of the house.  Super fast, no noise and many other software bonuses.  

 

You can read more here http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/auralic-aries-digital-analogue-converter-double-direct-stream-digital-over-wi-fi-18798/

 

and here http://www.hificlube.net/download.ashx?media=/media/168289/Auralic%20Aries%20press%20release.pdf

post #551 of 898
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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

Speaking of Aries, I am not intending to hurt anyone's feelings especially Auralic themselves, but I'm really having trouble realizing what this kind of streamer is good for and why would it be preferable over a self built streamer (some small PC/HTPC connected to the DAC with foobar2000 installed which supports DSD/DXD - and regular Wifi is fast enough for DSD/DXD playback anyway)

Can anyone enlighten me please?

 

 

 

 

Conceptually it's just like any other music streamer/player type device - see Aurender, Lumin, Olive, Auraliti, Linn, Naim, etc. The idea is to have a dedicated device, highly optimized for A) sound quality, and B) ease of use, neither of which are strong points in a general purpose Mac or Windows machine (unless you do some serious tweaking).

 

Can a DIY build match the capabilities of these dedicated devices? In many ways, yes, if you do it right. In other ways, no, they will never keep up - particularly in terms of aesthetics, but also to some degree control software (iPad/Android) and sound quality. 

 

I do think that if you're comfortable with building your own rig, and have the time to spend messing with it to achieve the best results, it's a good way to go. For those who don't have the time/knowledge/etc then many good options exist to help you out. 

post #552 of 898
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post
 

 

 

Conceptually it's just like any other music streamer/player type device - see Aurender, Lumin, Olive, Auraliti, Linn, Naim, etc. The idea is to have a dedicated device, highly optimized for A) sound quality, and B) ease of use, neither of which are strong points in a general purpose Mac or Windows machine (unless you do some serious tweaking).

 

Can a DIY build match the capabilities of these dedicated devices? In many ways, yes, if you do it right. In other ways, no, they will never keep up - particularly in terms of aesthetics, but also to some degree control software (iPad/Android) and sound quality. 

 

I do think that if you're comfortable with building your own rig, and have the time to spend messing with it to achieve the best results, it's a good way to go. For those who don't have the time/knowledge/etc then many good options exist to help you out. 

Well, I'm curious to see how the Aries does.  I have a tweaked out Mac Mini and also built a CAPS.  

post #553 of 898
If you're so inclined, you can build an audiophile PC and load it with Audiophile Optimizer. I understand that it's far from simple and it requires some degree of computer sophistication. Add in a Paul Pang soundcard and also another PC(laptop of desktop) so that you have an audio PC and a control PC and you are said to be in digital audio heaven.

I have an audio only PC hand built by Peter St, the man behind the Phasure NOS1 DAC. No, I no longer have that particular DAC so I've switched out the software from XX High End to j river media center.

The Lumin, Aurender, etc., servers cost several times the price of the ARIES(either standard or deluxe model) so that's a big win for the ARIES assuming that Auralic delivers the goods. Based on their track record I don't doubt them.

An Auralic powerpoint release some months back stated that, for the ARIES, "New functions being planned include Airplay, DSD upsampling, room acoustics correction, media server function." Also recently announced for 2014 are WiMP and Qobuz streaming compatibility. Try doing those functions with your DIY audio PC. Not possible, even with Audiophile Optimizer that some view as the state of the art, soundwise, in 2014.

Esau
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Am i right in thinking the only thing needed to listen to fantastic audio with this set up would be a laptop and some good quality files. Would something like this be over kill for lossless files 16/44.
I am new to the world of high end audio, any thoughts and opinions greatly appreciated. many thanks

post #555 of 898
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Would something like this be over kill for lossless files 16/44.

It's hard to argue that there is such a thing as overkill. Just varying value propositions.

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