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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Greetings,

 

I recently got interested into improving my audio experience. MP3 files were indeed getting a bit boring. For several weeks, I did research for a potent portable set up. I decided to go with the iPod 160GB as it had decent memory space. I am new in this universe, so pardon my blatant ignorance. I'm trying to learn though!

 

I downloaded my library with vinyl .FLAC files, which I then converted to Appel Lossless to make then compatible with iTunes. However, I now have some trouble to sync these songs into the iPod itself. I wanted your advice.

 

It gives me an error messages for everything songs by one. It says that the sample rate is not supported by the iPod. So I went and checked the file of the only song that would sync. Here is what I got.

 

The song that worked:

 

-Sample Rate: 48KHz

-Sample Size: 16 Bit

-Bit Rate: 1536 kbps

 

There is an example of songs that didn't copy properly on the iPod:

 

-Sample Rate: 96KHz

-Sample Size: 24 Bit

-Bit Rate: 4608 kbps

 

Is there a way to make my library compatible with the device itself? I was able to put it on iTunes, there has to be a way to make it work without losing sound quality.

 

Thank you so much in advance!

post #2 of 11

iTunes supports CD quality music-16/44.1 or 16/48. 24/96 is not supported by iTunes or by iPods. If you ripped it yourself, you could rerip to 16/48 FLACs. If not, I'm not sure on the conversion process. I though it would have been taken care of by the ALAC encoding, but apparently not. If you converted down to 320 MP3/AAC you could do it, but that is obviously not optimal. Probably software out there to convert 24/96 to 16/48 without damaging bitrate.

post #3 of 11

Mihaz, why not Rockboxsmile.gif

post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by putente View Post

Mihaz, why not Rockboxsmile.gif

Rockbox is a great software upgrade, but I don't think the DAC in the iPod supports anything above 48khz. Rockbox might be able to downsample it, but I don't know if it can take 24 bit.

post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

Rockbox is a great software upgrade, but I don't think the DAC in the iPod supports anything above 48khz. Rockbox might be able to downsample it, but I don't know if it can take 24 bit.

 

 

Yes, I know about that iPod hardware limitation. Rockbox downsamples those high bit/sample rates, but my recommendation was mainly because with RB he could use FLAC straight away, without the need to convert his library to ALAC...

post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

iTunes supports CD quality music-16/44.1 or 16/48. 24/96 is not supported by iTunes or by iPods.

 

While it's true that iPods don't support hi-res audio, iTunes plays 192/24 files (AIFF, WAV and ALAC) without a problem.

 

@Mihaz: as the other fellow head-fiers said, there's no way to import hi-res music in your iPod through iTunes. You need to re-rip your music to a lower quality (up to 48khz/24bit) or downsample the actual files. No matter what you'll decide, you will decrease the overall sound quality in the process (as to whether you'll be able to notice any difference on a mobile player is debatable).


Edited by MrScratch - 3/26/13 at 5:35am
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by MrScratch View Post

 

While it's true that iPods don't support hi-res audio, iTunes plays 192/24 files (AIFF, WAV and ALAC) without a problem.

 

@Mihaz: as the other fellow head-fiers said, there's no way to import hi-res music in your iPod through iTunes. You need to re-rip your music to a lower quality (up to 48khz/24bit) or downsample the actual files. No matter what you'll decide, you will decrease the overall sound quality in the process (as to whether you'll be able to notice any difference on a mobile player is debatable).

Well, obviously 192 khz is better than 48 khz. Depending on your rig and your ears, you may not be able to tell a difference, but most people probably can-its the same thing with bitrate, many lower end rigs and less trained ears can't tell between 320 and lossless. Converting it shouldn't lose quality beyond the drop in sampling rate, though downsampling onboard might.

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This was posted in another article and would make for some good reading.
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thank you for your replies! It's greatly appreciated.

 

I really don't mind to transfer my .FLAC into .ALAC. All I want is good sound quality. So, I should be using two library? One, highest quality, at home. And a second for my portable device? That leads me to two other questions.

 

 

 

1) Is there a portable media player that would support my sampling rate? (still new to the audiophile world, so I don't know all the products that are offered).

 

2) If I keep my Classic iPod, is there a program that I could use to downsample the file. Or is it just better to start over from scratch?

 

 

Thanks in advance!

post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Mihaz View Post

 

1) Is there a portable media player that would support my sampling rate? (still new to the audiophile world, so I don't know all the products that are offered).

 

2) If I keep my Classic iPod, is there a program that I could use to downsample the file. Or is it just better to start over from scratch?

 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

1) FiiO X3! It isn't out yet, but this little guy will play MP3, OGG, AAC, WMA, FLAC, APE, WAV, ALAC formats up to 192kHz/24bit. It will be released soon! beyersmile.png If you need it now, you can look into the iBasso X100 which is kind of expensive or the Galaxy Player 4.0 (or newer) with a proper custom firmware.

 

2) On Mac OS X you can use XLD, on Windows maybe you can do it with dBpoweramp.

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by MrScratch View Post

 

1) FiiO X3! It isn't out yet, but this little guy will play MP3, OGG, AAC, WMA, FLAC, APE, WAV, ALAC formats up to 192kHz/24bit. It will be released soon! beyersmile.png If you need it now, you can look into the iBasso X100 which is kind of expensive or the Galaxy Player 4.0 (or newer) with a proper custom firmware.

 

2) On Mac OS X you can use XLD, on Windows maybe you can do it with dBpoweramp.

Some decent advise, but remember that the sampling rate isn't the only thing that matters-the quality of the amp and DAC in the device will show in your SQ more than the sampling rate.

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