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Just read the Yamaha Pro 500 thread and discovered a funny guy: money4me247 is hillarious, hahaha. 


lol Yeah he's something else. Beagle's impressions were spot-on and matched mine. His initial input on the lower mids/upper bass and how natural piano and vocals were was what prompted me to get them (or else I usually never buy headphones new, I usually wait to get a good deal but I had a good feeling about these). It's difficult to get the weight of a piano right on a headphone. So when I read that I knew I had to try them. 


Edited by roma101 - 3/22/13 at 2:39pm
post #77 of 243
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I hope to try the 7520s. When I had the Z1000 I appreciated them more at home than I did portably, in loud environments. Going my memory, I think I just wanted a bit more punchy bass and I found that there was some peakiness in the higher registers, but otherwise it's a beautiful-sounding headphone. Is there big difference between the 7520s and the Z1000 sonically?

 

yes, i originally bought my z1000 for commute, the noise isolation is not enough for me since i commute on very noisy train every day. now im wondering if i should try mad dog or paradox or just get a ciem. opinions? 

 

 

 

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They are just opinions indeed, but the more opinions there are from different users the higher the chance you can find some solid impressions and attain a general knowledge of the sound of the headphones. It's why I hope and encourage people to audition them - the Z1ks got a good amount attention when they came out. These should also. I already PMed Jude, telling him about these and asking if he would write a review or at least give his opinion.

 

thats true, it will be nice to hear what jude has to say

 

 

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Yup. I read the entire Z1000 thread, probably more than once, haha. I think people had high hopes for Sony because they called the Z1000 a flagship and When Sony makes a Flagship people think R10. Plus the LCP diaphram is a cousin(?) some what related to the biocellulose diaphram of the R10?

 

Yeah so even much vaunted reviewers like Muppetface was comparing them to the HD800 and coming away somewhat pleased. But if you ask me the Z1000's are amazing, and I love them to death. I did a direct comparison of them against the LCD-2 R2, and HE-500, using Lyr/Bifrost over a period of months. The Z1000 of course do "lose" against these two heavy weights, but man they put up a fight, When considering how light/comfortable they are and how easy it is to amp them, they're really a hidden gem. It's sad everyone pretty much ignored them on Head-Fi. The resolution and clarity Sony achieved using a traditional dynamic driver is amazing. Not planar magnetic resolution, but it's right below. The driver is slower than Orthos and maybe even Tesla, but the rigid drivers provide insane clarity.

 

As hard as it was to believe the 7520 improved upon the Z1000 in everyway, I can think of and to me is a more "perfected" version of the Z1000. Now that cable sucks... thinking about Brian BTG audio to sort this little messy cable problem out for me.

 

But yeah reddragon you definitely should also try the 7520. It's pretty nice as well. wink_face.gif

 

 

 

man... i love my z1000 so i kinda already know i will like the 7520 even before trying but part of me says they are similar and i should spend my money elsewhere... 

post #78 of 243
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I hope to try the 7520s. When I had the Z1000 I appreciated them more at home than I did portably, in loud environments. Going my memory, I think I just wanted a bit more punchy bass and I found that there was some peakiness in the higher registers, but otherwise it's a beautiful-sounding headphone. Is there big difference between the 7520s and the Z1000 sonically?

Yes it does have mooaar bass. Not a lot more, but enough that you'll notice a difference right away, making the bass closer to neutral/flat compared to the Z1000 IMO. It's sound is also more spacious with better seperation and imaging. Also I find the resolution to be increased by a tiny bit as well. The insanely great timbre is still in place along with the sweet mids. Mids are more spacious and have more room to breathe while still being up front. Can't think of a single thing I lost by switching to 7520 from the Z1000. Just gained a few nice little things that help with the overall presentation.

 

As for the peakiness. Never had a problem with the Z1000 in this regard, so I'm probably more dull to treble than you are Roma. I do hate peaky treble with a vegeance, but never reallly detected peakiness with either the Z1000 or 7520.

post #79 of 243
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man... i love my z1000 so i kinda already know i will like the 7520 even before trying but part of me says they are similar and i should spend my money elsewhere... 

Yeah reddragon. You should go exploring. You really have to start sampling various flavors before figuring out what works for you. You have to lose your way before finding it in Head-Fi

 

I think you should get the Yamaha Pro 500 and Mad Dogs and do a review against the Z1000 evil_smiley.gif.

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Denon AH-D5000's..

They are no longer in production smily_headphones1.gif
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Ultrasone Signature Pros

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Sudden feeling of trying all the headphones mentioned above and compare it to my king, the AKG K550 xD

post #83 of 243
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Yeah reddragon. You should go exploring. You really have to start sampling various flavors before figuring out what works for you. You have to lose your way before finding it in Head-Fi

 

I think you should get the Yamaha Pro 500 and Mad Dogs and do a review against the Z1000 evil_smiley.gif.

 

 

i might indeed get the mad dog but first thing first, i still have to send my ibasso dx100 back to ibasso... 

post #84 of 243

Not to stomp anyone, but I think we can toss out the Sony Z1000 as a contender. Before looking at this graph, I listened to it at B-Buy, and thought it sounded odd.  Looking at the graph, It has a huge gap from 2000-8000hz, along with a significant amount of bass roll off.

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It might be just me, but honestly though from the thread title that this thread was leading up to an announcement about the return of the MDR-R10 (the true kings).

 

Massive disappointment ensued afterwards. I've never been so disappointed from a thread title before, ever.

post #86 of 243
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Question, why do a manufacturer discontinued a model if they didn't think there are better replacement model? They have have done good research and confident about replacing them, no?
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Question, why do a manufacturer discontinued a model if they didn't think there are better replacement model? They have have done good research and confident about replacing them, no?

Because, if they keep it going on, there's no speciality on it anymore. This will also caught more attention from fans. In addition, to make it unique? 

 

Just my thought xD

post #88 of 243

Or just limited production due to lack of materials/upkeep (if it's a statement product). Or lack of popularity.

post #89 of 243
its all about profit. if an item does not earn enough profit, its production will be stopped. high end phones will always be more of a status symbol of a company and not their cash cow. i guess sony earns more money with massmarket consumer phones, so why should they keep on doing somthing else?
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Question, why do a manufacturer discontinued a model if they didn't think there are better replacement model? They have have done good research and confident about replacing them, no?

Because they don't produce equipment because its "better" they produce it because its "better for business" - the R10 were not profitable from what I've read, and that's the end of them. Same reason Sony went through and cleaned house with their headphone lineup a few years ago - they're losing money and need to do something.

Generally models that don't sell, or that don't realize their desired sales volume, will not last very long (or the company will not last very long).
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