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i know but still, which part do you think the m100 is superior? im not disagreeing with you as i havent heard the m100, im simply curious

Ok. The M100 has first a superb bass response, I'm a bass head. Then the soundstage though not denon old series level, is pretty good for its price. The d600 just doesn't do it for me, for some reason TO ME, it sounds boxed in not compared to open cans but even when compared to say the m100. Possibly resonance? I'm not exactly sure but well, maybe it's the shape of my ear canal?

IMO, the d600 isn't worth it's MSRP to me, the M100 is a very strong contender if you are looking for big bass but not sacrificing sq, at this price range. However, I have to say I don't own these headphones, I only auditioned them, but apparently the d600s boxed in problem was confirmed when I tried the headphones twice and also checked with the salesperson that it is full burnt in. They are also very well powered with a RSA Darkstar and a Naim Dac.
post #227 of 243
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post


Ok. The M100 has first a superb bass response, I'm a bass head. Then the soundstage though not denon old series level, is pretty good for its price. The d600 just doesn't do it for me, for some reason TO ME, it sounds boxed in not compared to open cans but even when compared to say the m100. Possibly resonance? I'm not exactly sure but well, maybe it's the shape of my ear canal?

IMO, the d600 isn't worth it's MSRP to me, the M100 is a very strong contender if you are looking for big bass but not sacrificing sq, at this price range. However, I have to say I don't own these headphones, I only auditioned them, but apparently the d600s boxed in problem was confirmed when I tried the headphones twice and also checked with the salesperson that it is full burnt in. They are also very well powered with a RSA Darkstar and a Naim Dac.

 

 

how does the m100 have superb bass response? because my impression was the d600's bass was bottomless and had nice extension. does the m100 better d600 in this area or do you hear the d600 differently than i hear it? im really intrigued because i thought the d600 has pretty good bass and was considering maybe buying it in the future but if the m100 indeed has better bass, then i dont see why not to go for the m100 unless theres other deciding factors of course. soundstage, usually i dont pick up that much so for me it will be fine. thanks for sharing your experience. 

post #228 of 243
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how does the m100 have superb bass response? because my impression was the d600's bass was bottomless and had nice extension. does the m100 better d600 in this area or do you hear the d600 differently than i hear it? im really intrigued because i thought the d600 has pretty good bass and was considering maybe buying it in the future but if the m100 indeed has better bass, then i dont see why not to go for the m100 unless theres other deciding factors of course. soundstage, usually i dont pick up that much so for me it will be fine. thanks for sharing your experience. 

Oops! Maybe I confused you. Both cans have comparable bass response as in like quantity. I don't look out for extension because my music is usually midbass oriented. That's why if I say you don't hear the problems I picked up it maybe my ear canal shape that cause that sound. However, if you like the D600 do wait for its price to drop. Btw, have you check out the M100? It seems to be a great bass head headphone which have pretty good soundstage for closed cans at is price and seems like a strong contender against the d600 and its more portable and less prone to falling off your head.
post #229 of 243
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Oops! Maybe I confused you. Both cans have comparable bass response as in like quantity. I don't look out for extension because my music is usually midbass oriented. That's why if I say you don't hear the problems I picked up it maybe my ear canal shape that cause that sound. However, if you like the D600 do wait for its price to drop. Btw, have you check out the M100? It seems to be a great bass head headphone which have pretty good soundstage for closed cans at is price and seems like a strong contender against the d600 and its more portable and less prone to falling off your head.

 

 

well then how exactly is the m100 has better bass? tighter bass, more slam or impact? the d600 i can find it for 350 now, do you think it will go lower than that or is this a good price to buy? im probably not buying it now though since im short of cash for the moment. no, i have not followed the m100 but have heard people saying the m100 is disappointing. you are probably the first one that i have encountered who seems to like it. im not sure if i want a basshead headphone since my quantity wise my xb500 already serves that purpose but i rarely use it because im not really a basshead. i think what im looking for is a good warm, lush sounding, musical headphone that is non-fatiguing. i rarely listen to treble when im listening to my music, i think my brain automatically focuses more on the bass and mid. 

post #230 of 243
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... i think what im looking for is a good warm, lush sounding, musical headphone that is non-fatiguing. i rarely listen to treble when im listening to my music, i think my brain automatically focuses more on the bass and mid. 

 

If you can wait out the time until either you have the funds, or the headphones drop more in price, then I think you will find that in the D600.

post #231 of 243
I've seen D600 for ~$299 on Amazon, but I don't know if that's something it'll drop back down to or not. $350 is probably as good a price as any (that's still $150 off MSRP); no idea if they're "worth" it though - haven't heard them. You can always check CamelCamelCamel; http://camelcamelcamel.com/Denon-AH-D600-ManiacTM-Over-Ear-Headphones/product/B00858I4F2
post #232 of 243
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post


well then how exactly is the m100 has better bass? tighter bass, more slam or impact? the d600 i can find it for 350 now, do you think it will go lower than that or is this a good price to buy? im probably not buying it now though since im short of cash for the moment. no, i have not followed the m100 but have heard people saying the m100 is disappointing. you are probably the first one that i have encountered who seems to like it. im not sure if i want a basshead headphone since my quantity wise my xb500 already serves that purpose but i rarely use it because im not really a basshead. i think what im looking for is a good warm, lush sounding, musical headphone that is non-fatiguing. i rarely listen to treble when im listening to my music, i think my brain automatically focuses more on the bass and mid. 

Hmmm... This is going off topic already lets take to the PMs. I will pm you.
post #233 of 243

btt: what about beyer t70p?

post #234 of 243
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Originally Posted by Carlsan View Post

 

If you can wait out the time until either you have the funds, or the headphones drop more in price, then I think you will find that in the D600.

 

 

i think i will do what i should do, wait for boxing day or thanksgiving!!! biggrin.gif

post #235 of 243
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btt: what about beyer t70p?

If they're anything like T70 - I'm gonna vote "not ever." ph34r.gif
post #236 of 243
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If they're anything like T70 - I'm gonna vote "not ever." ph34r.gif

I think that's a little harsh. I like the T70 overall but after spending the weekend with them (on the plane), I'm going to be making a switch to my portable, full size, close back headphone. 

 

Cons:

1. A bit bigger than other portable headphones.

2. Isolation is pretty bad for a closed back. When I first put it on, it felt like a semi open since I can hear everything going around me including the GF speaking at normal voice.

3. Long cord is a hassle to take with me all the time. Most to all the portable full size headphones I've tried had shorter cords or interchangable long and short cords.

4. Bass is light and a lot of people will probably complain but I am actually okay with ti.

5. After listening to some EDM and similar music over the weekend, I'm finding the high end a little bit harsh and fatiguing after a short listen.

 

Basically what I am saying is this. The T70(P) should not be on the king list but it is definitely not as horrible as a lot of people are making it seem.

post #237 of 243

Also, I read this entire thread and did not get a better idea as to what to replace my T70 with. :P

post #238 of 243
srh940
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any conclusion to this thread? 

 

or did anyone with experience with the closed kings leave a comment? 

post #240 of 243
Ath ws99. Better than mdr 1r, mdr 7506/v6, and dt770.
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